"Poisoning the well" is a very effective strategy, it can feed into the drama and hyped up emotional response to a bad situation, but when when it has been disproven it is mostly forgiven and seen as the perpetrators over commitment to the cause then all is forgiven until the next time. Now we have an ineffective loop that goes nowhere, this strategy has been repeated so many times, but no matter if they have malign or benign intentions the same damage occurs.
Very interesting. I see this poisoning the well very often. For example during the covid emergency (22-23) many claimed all vaccines don't work and germ theory is bunk and nanobots were found (shows odd pics). These claims were paraded around as of every "antivaxxer" believed them or some form of them. In reality most people just wanted informed consent and to not be lied to about safety and efficacy and it is a human rights abuse to fire people for refusing an experimental drug.
Have you ever reached out to either Naomi Wolf or Sasha Latypova about this bogus/planted 82% number? I don't know about Sasha, but Naomi seems sincere in her beliefs (even if I don't always agree with them or with her tactics).
Thanks for your tireless efforts on this front, very much appreciated!
If you saw Sasha's comments about me and our team you would realise what her role is, so there is no reaching out to her. I thought Naomi was different. We have a few people that have reached out to her with all this information but her response was to post that video with Sasha, so I guess that told us what her view was. Disappointing.
When I asked Sasha how she got what surely are the most highly classifieds docs in the history of the world that implicate the DOD in what are without a doubt crimes against humanity (6 billion injected makes Pol Pot look like a saint).... her response was:
She refused to respond and instead hurled homophobic insults at me suggesting I was trying to mate with my dog. She informed me that she was very rich and had a chateau in Bordeaux and that she was on a ski vacation in Aspen and was drinking $400 bottles of wine (and she wants readers to buy her coffee). Hardly the behaviour of a hero who has dedicated her life to saving the world.
When I pressed her for more information on how she was able to get these damning documents, she continued to mock and taunt, and ultimately she banned me - permanently.
I would suggest that Substack is what is known as a Limited Hangout and that Steve and Sasha are two players in a wide network of authors who are feeding the Anti Vaxxers red meat and watching them high-five as they celebrate certain victory.
I would suggest that Steve and Sasha and others are able to appear convincing because they actually believe what they are doing is in the interests of mankind because The Extermination Plan is necessary (as do all those executing The Plan).
That's more informative than the last one you posted. And yes, you do act exactly like an agent but presumably either from a different department or as part of the same act.
However, I am interested in where these military contracts are.
Has anyone ever seen them, or is it just another apparition/glow op?
Yes I've seen some of that stuff before and just moved on because what she does is similar. Clearly the military believe they are the only people who should control everything, and unfortunately have the power to do so. This is a bad combination. So talking about this will be confronting and needs to be handled with care. Talking about bioweapons and killboxes is easily off putting to the average person and will end up with Watts looking like the same sort of controlled opposition glow op character that we are talking about. To be clear, I'm not saying that about Watt. I am saying that what the military does around the world is so awful that normal people will not believe it, so just saying it "as is" will come across as crazy. It needs framing in an extremely professional and objective way, which Watt doesn't do - I suspect because she is a writer rather than a medic or scientist.
US military is at the tip of the spear of all advanced tech. AU is it’s little pilot fish. Exposing any thread of the vast web of destruction would hopefully lead to it. I think geoeng is the most obvious & heinous crime happening right now. SRMGI (governance initiative to normalise SRM - to normalise all spraying, be it pathogens/ experiments / actual SRM). So visible in the skies + with apps, polluting & killing flora & fauna, freak weather devastation of animals & infrastructure. One could have the whole army of environmentalists on our side if they can tune in to what’s happening. However, touching this content seems to result in extreme censorship. Like James Corbett’s echo of Orwell - hope lies in the Proletariat - hopefully the ‘sheeple’ can be made to see & understand this most heinous crime
Sasha seemed to come on the scene with Watt & I suspect Watt uncovered the info & Sasha swooped in to partly control it (Sasha’s daughter is Soph, which indicates glowie networks)
What I’ve noticed about Naomi Wolf is that she is really really really innumerate. Like totally. She has absolutely no clue. You can point out figures until you’re blue in the face but you might as well be speaking Chinese. She cannot tell the difference between the correct calculation and a bogus one. She has no instinctive sense for numbers that might flag to her she is barking up the wrong tree. She is also overly emotional and too arrogant to even consider that she might be wrong.
She can write reasonably well.
Whether she is a honest actor, I do not know. But as someone who is good at maths, I can’t help but think she is a complete moron.
Latypova almost certainly knows better though. Which is suspect.
I can accept this explanation. The more I read about Sasha the more it seems that she is the person that has ingratiated herself into so many people that this cannot be accidental
I don't know that she had any. I was happy to support her while she was apparently supporting the hard working people that crunched numbers for her to take all the credit. Now that she is threatening a defamation suit in response to my article (which is pretty ironic) she has pretty much laid her cards on the table.
Oh poor anonymous dear! you are so afraid of posting a direct comment or question. Gosh, what would happen to you if you asked me a question or reach out ANONYMOUS troll? Nobody reached out to me, you are lying as usual. If anyone reached out, please post evidence that they did. You need to lie even about smallest things like that. A bunch of anonymous mouse trolls on X hurling abuse is not "reaching out".
You will remember that your attack on mice accounts (which you bizarrely included with some attack on Robert Malone) predated any pushback.
Anonymity is required when our careers and families, and the careers and families of unrelated people, are directly threatened by pharma harassment networks that you chose to join, which you should have seen in an FBI report some time last year. Perhaps you forgot.
People reached out to Naomi, Jim and Kim. Naomi's response was to get you on her show and double down on the false story. It would have been better if she had gotten Jim on her show, but she didn't.
He never tried to reach out to us, because he is a bullshit artist con op, and he is not interested in the truth. He is paid to smear us. My numbers are correct. Read the f-ing paper by Shimabukuro, it clearly states 827 pregnancies included in their analysis. so whatever Arkmedic/Jikky adds to the denominator is designed to artificially inflate it.
"Receipt of a first dose of vaccine meeting registry-eligibility criteria was reported by 92 participants (2.3%) during the periconception period, by 1132 (28.6%) in the first trimester of pregnancy, by 1714 (43.3%) in the second trimester, and by 1019 (25.7%) in the third trimester (1 participant was missing information to determine the timing of vaccination) (Table 3)"
827 was the number of completed pregnancies because, in case you forgot, pregnancy takes about 9 months to complete and this paper collated data to March 30, 2021 from women enrolled after Dec 14th 2020.
So the only completed pregnancies were those where the vaccine was given in the 3rd trimester (700) and those where there had been a miscarriage/ectopic/termination (127) of which most (duh) were miscarriages.
The other 1105 pregnancies from the first trimester were ongoing at the time of the paper, as were the other 2000 or so.
If you read it, you would know that. Who wrote your script please?
"Receipt of a first dose of vaccine meeting registry-eligibility criteria was reported by 92 participants (2.3%) during the periconception period, by 1132 (28.6%) in the first trimester of pregnancy, by 1714 (43.3%) in the second trimester, and by 1019 (25.7%) in the third trimester (1 participant was missing information to determine the timing of vaccination) (Table 3)"
827 was the number of completed pregnancies because, in case you forgot, pregnancy takes about 9 months to complete and this paper collated data to March 30, 2021 from women enrolled after Dec 14th 2020.
So the only completed pregnancies were those where the vaccine was given in the 3rd trimester (700) and those where there had been a miscarriage/ectopic/termination (127) of which most (duh) were miscarriages.
The other 1105 pregnancies from the first trimester were ongoing at the time of the paper, as were the other 2000 or so.
If you read it, you would know that. Who wrote your script please?
Correct, given most women in Australia and some other countries were forced to be vaccinated you would think the drop in fertility rate would have been much more dramatic than the 2-4% recorded.
But from 2 to 4% is a doubling, or 200%! in Pharma RRR terms.
On an individual basis this is hard to notice. When I was delivering babies (1980-2001) as a GP, I might have had 20- 25 per year, down to 12 in my sparse years.
If a midwife had 100 deliveries in an average year the variation could be from 80 to 110 or so. It would be difficult to know individually whether 2022 with 82 births was unusual if 2020 provided 95 babies. One would need to track and collate a population of about 200,000 to spot the drop in fertility, and then honestly report the numbers.
I did initially fall for the "95% effective" trick, despite being aware of the use of RRR in Pharma promotion, and knowing that no medical intervention provides 95% efficacy.
To say there has been an INCREASE of 82% in miscarriages,then you are close to the truth. But if you say the current miscarriage rate in pregnant womwn is 82%,then that is obviously false and erroneous. Naomi and Sacha need to clear this up
Yes they definitely said it was the miscarriage rate, and I know where they got their (erroneously calculated) figures from. But the increase is probably 80-100%. It's impossible to be sure without access to the correct data, and it looks like they don't want us to have it.
Thanks Dr Syed, you have done an amazing illucidation of this really important issue. Further obfuscation by the perps only reinforces your points of contention. The issue of pregnancy disruprion is hugely critical in a moral and healthy society
Could it have been a misunderstanding of an apx 80% increase in miscarriages misinterpreted as 82% miscarriage rate?
There was an article by Global Research early in the vax push, it said that half of the people in Isreal who were vaccinated had covid. But actually it was that, Of the people in a certain sample who tested positive for covid, Half of Those had been vaccinated. I don't know if it was an intentional mislead or not, but that made it hard for me to trust Global Research ...
The DMED Dept' of Defense data showing huge increases in health problems is based on untrustworthy numbers, yet it's still cited, it was mentioned in Follow the Silenced. Math / data genius Mathew Crawford explains the DMED sage here - https://www.campfire.wiki/doku.php?id=rounding_the_earth:the_dmed_saga
I read almost everything from Naomi Wolf, whose expertise is not data ... I can't wrap my head around her being an intentional agent of misdirection ...
Hoping this is misunderstandings / stubborn personalities. I don't doubt the concept of controlled opposition, and maybe I'm naive, but I can't believe Wolf would choose exile from her liberal tribe, be an early voice of sharing stories of menstrual disruptions, facilitate all that going through the Pfizer documents, expose their clinical trial data - which was what convinced me that this is much worse than pharma cutting safety corners to put profits over people ... all to actually help the official narrative and help the ones poisoning people ...
Yes I did think that briefly the other day but it doesn't check out. What I actually think is happening is that Sasha has befriended these people so convincingly that they actually think that she is on their side, so therefore must be right. Someone like me comes along and it's easier to shout at me than to say that their new best friend is wrong, because they didn't do their due diligence (and art) in vetting the person.
I would bet this point your largely right about Sasha and though she's able to write at a professional, diplomatic,and high scientific level .at least by appearance in a substantial percentage of her articles she never is able to sustain this spirit beyond extreme level feisty,wrathful attack mode reveals someone insincere in best of humanity preservations against elites or cultists or legions,etc were uo against in many tech or related dark areas.
Naomi,everyone here is hoping cuz of her soft hearted,Mama next door,kind eyes, beauty and sincere sounding delivery were not being fooled..I'm 50/50 on her after reading this article..I do think she's soft headed enuff to screw up the math and be pressured by the jive sharks trying to skew things outside of court and peer review seriousness to put down serious challenges (in the 2-4 x increases your citing,plenty to use in sincere challenge..).
However ,she did go into a rant about because being a dedicated jew, seemingly leaning towards zionist by not differentiating at this critical time in history last month..very suspicious..again not enuff to convict but if one looks at the dozens of prime time network or close liberal reporters who've shifted to republican...some even now shifting back to liberal it's apparent these people are being directed often..not all ..but most seems.
I encourage you and others to cite these numbers revised to Naomi and pressure her to recant etc one cuz I want to believe she really is kind and 2 she deserves every chance to prove her self legit again..
Makes me ashamed of myself like most readers here to realize weakness so common in math has let this issue skip by for several years ,weakening our cases.
Please submit this info to Leslie Moonikian,Idaho lawyer with more legit vaxx and mask etc court wins then anybody..who seems to win by avoiding confrontational, conspiracy accusations and getting them on smaller issues of violations of their own rules and laws that even they lost track of seems coveting the bigger stuff they though they'd be attacked on..She's fully aware of bio wpn issue level but realizes gauranteed loss challenging there as you need to prove murder intent of dozens in the line of invention, manufacturing, distribution and they own the courts so if you begin to win it's shut down n gagged..often just by citing invention patent secrets alone= most advocating court attack here also what your talking about,phony players going too far to win, intentionally!
Lesson: underplay everything ie they failed to meet minimum testing of this one chemical they promised to do and falsified this one document, disqualifying entire drug! Also seen jaywalking daily in front of lab while picking their nose showing contempt of law, whatever little shit they never saw coming to unravel big shit is way of Moonikian,opposite of Sasha, Kingston,others like..Id considered this before by instincts but got suckered like rest I'm embarrassed to admit..I so regret cheating and paying off my classmates to get by math classes I fell behind in..I was smart enough to catch up in other subjects after long beer sessions reigned over academics but just couldn't catch up on math..you really have to be taught each stage or your lost!
Thanks for rescuing us ie those anti vaxxers, anti nano still trying to stay on board this crazy train of care over try to wiggle head deeper in sand option most have now chosen due to seemingly hopeless intensity of matter..
I suggest spending time corresponding with all 30 or so top researchers on sub..
How do you feel about howbadismybatch.com? Still legit on 95+ % of side effects deaths caused by 4% if covid batch numbers(4% showing different markers too=intent proof)..or baloney?!
Craig P.created Howbadismybatch and doesn't directly involved Sasha or Naomi but it's a influentia mainstay anti vaxxl site that did or does contain Sasha's off figures..and likely others..please consider contacting Craig.
Point is sure shows 3-10 percent of vaxx numbered lots are marked differently and cause 90 percent plus of deaths,etc and are distributed to effect republican , Christian counties approx 77 percent more...
Majority's of covid stats and hundred plus researchers are there..
There are many activists/dissidents out there. Some are good, some are bad and some are in between. It is good to know what sort they are so we can know what information is worth sharing and working on.
One thing I have found is that many of the bad and mixed activists still sometimes have good information or link to other good activists while building their reputation.
I have progressively stopped following those that are compromised and focused on their sources that appear still to be honest.
Seeking truth in the modern world is even more difficult these days.
Yes, focus on the information, not the person. One of the worst IMO, who is deeply embedded in the health freedom movement, nevertheless is a true expert in one area, and that is where I listen to him. The rest from him is malarky and even damaging. Sadly too many IMO take everything he says as gospel just because of his deep expertise in one area.
I loved this article. I listened regarding the 82% drop in completed pregnancies and other things early on and I am sure cited it in 2021-2022. The problem was that the drop in pregnancies that end in live births, while significant and worrying, were nowhere near these figures. It looks around 15% drop in live births since jab rollout but over a few years. It's going down mostly every year, which is terrifying, but not in the "Every jabbed person will be dead in two years" or the "Every jabbed woman will be rendered infertile" way on this.
I remember as a clear example of poisoning the well something my very very very pro life Catholic ex nun mother and some of her Catholic friends would say: "Every woman who has an abortion will be infertiler for life. " Really? It seemed a little extreme but I heard it from several people (all older women). Of course then when statistics on pregnancy or a woman became pregnant with a wanted pregnancy after abortion came out it all obviously looked like some religious bunkus. Exactly as an opp would be intended to do, methinks...
Amy, please unsub from me. Actually, I just removed your email. I don't need subscribers who can't tell a freakin anonymous mouse op for 5 years and fall for this crap again and again. I am interested in a dialogue with honest people only. Thanks.
Just to raise a point of contention, the reason I refer to the tactics you mention as 'Discredit-by-Association', is 'poisoning the well' has a specific definition within philosophy; it usually means to present negative information about a person or concept (not to misrepresent a person's argument; you're thinking of a *strawman argument*, not a well poisoning). For example, if I posit 'anyone who likes the colour red are blood thirsty serial killers', that would be a poisoning the well.
Currently, there's no term designed to refer to the kind of Intel Agency tactics that have existed since, arguably, the JFK shooting. I call it discredit-by-association, because the other term 'guilt-by-association' has the closest definition that 'a bad person associated with a group is used to discredit the entire group'. The classic example: 'Hitler was a vegetarian, therefore all vegetarians are bad'.
In this case, however, the individual themselves isn't obviously the bad person - their arguments are. So the arguments are a discredit-by-association (they try to associate discredited arguments as a fallacious tactic to refute). I've coined the phrase and I'm hoping to see wider adoption in the lexicon. DbA attacks are numerous organisations bread-and-butter; the reason I don't refer to it as a 'strawman argument', is the definition of a strawman is one presented by the opposition (I.E. they mischaracterise what you said), rather than someone pretending to be an ally presenting their own wonky argument and associating with the outgroup.
Hopefully what I said made sense. I think you mean 'discredit-by-association' rather than poisoning the well. Thank you for attending my TedX talk. ; )
Yes and it's a conundrum I already faced. I thought about taking your view but preferred the well poisoning. It's really a combination of the two and almost its own logical fallacy. We definitely need a term for it. Back in the day I wanted to call it the "Macartney effect" after the even whereby they buried a story about the huge amounts of grants that Kristine Macartney received to sell vaccines, by making up junk about what she said in a court case.
From a person not familiar w/ the interesting origin/philosophy's meaning of the expression, 'Poisoning the well' gave me a clear understanding of the purposefully malevolent set-up process/how it works...imo the PROCESS (moving parts; this happens 1st, then this & this are put in place) is what's important to understand vs how the terms are defined for use in philosophical arguments. Dialysis RN in the long ago...my mind brought up, 'Oh, it's like, 'Priming the Pump'...but it's not as simple as that..
I like your Macartney effect (although it sounds a bit like McCarthy), however my concern is it paints the effect as being only vaccine industry related.
The practice was as early as the JFK shooting (the 'magic bullet' absurdism theory) and was most visibly used during 9/11 when people started asking questions, with the injection of 'plane denialists' who claimed the planes didn't exist, the 'holographic planes' BS inserted by ex-MI6 members; might sound familiar given the whole 'viruses don't exist' and 'nukes don't exist' (ala Mike Yeadon, another ex-pharma employee) arguments.
Discredit-by-association doesn't quite roll off the tongue as nicely, but it is a literalism. For me the distinction: DbA describes an entire industry-wide practice used by a lot of organisations (agencies, shills, NGOs, corporations, entire media outlets, etc), and isn't just merely a descriptor for a bad form of logical argument.
Logical fallacies are when an opponent makes mistakes debating in good faith; but in this case, the errors are intentional and part of psychological warfare operations; propaganda, even. So it isn't just 'your arguments are wrong', but 'this entire conduct is evil'.
I would suggest taking the various terms to your Mouse army friends and brain storming for a better descriptor.
You explained it very clearly in this article, it is a strawman tactic I have seen the media do all the time.
What would be one in reverse? Make up a Dr Norman Swan type media spox and have him say exaggerated stuff like "taking covid vaccines will make you live to 130 with the health of a 30yo". Something like that.
Wish we could do it back but our side is committed to factual accuracy
I’m not persuaded that it is useful to argue over “what is the best label.” Certainly “poisoning the well” creates a vivid picture of intentional harm in a way that “straw-man” does not.
Accuracy in terminology is important; if you don't care about accuracy, then you're engaging in the same flaws you accuse the opponent. Poisoning the well already has a definition that is widely used, and it means a specific sub-genre of "slander" at an opponent:
And I didn't propose strawman argument as the replacement. I proposed discredit-by-association, because that is exactly how it works. Please read my comment fully next time.
Haha I did read it, I’m just disagreeing with you. DbA attempts to solve a problem but would be considered by most people to relate to a person rather than a story, so you’ve ended up in the same pit as I’m in.
This is not only immensely disturbing to know about the birth defects, as it is the first time I have read this; but to learn that Naomi Wolf, who I have genuinely believed was a trustworthy source of researched knowledge, was hyping up the statistics of miscarriages, due to trusting what Sasha had found. There has to be a bigger drama in all of this, beyond what you state about Sasha being a "glowie", and Naomi wanting the attention for both of them. Furthermore, when Naomi published and lectured about the information she found after analyzing 300,000 Pfizer documents released via a FOIA request, and stated that 44 percent of pregnant women who participated in the drug maker’s COVID-19 vaccine trial lost their babies, wasn't this investigated in advance? She has been a heroine in her reporting on the dangers of the Covid vaccine to many of us, and has risked her whole life to do so. . . .It would be good to try to work together. The world needs a collective conscious comradery, not a contentious separation which weakens us all, toward the determined goal.
Yes please understand that Naomi is the PR front for the Pfizer papers, but the workers did the work. Some of them have co-published with me or in other substacks. They are rarely credited.
MDM (mis dis mal) information psyops poison the well and muddy the waters by design. Those engaged in such are in the MDM business, and as always business is booming.
Opinion, criticism, facts and reality itself can be stamped with MDM. When deployed in a precise way - those labels become instruments to distract from reality, confuse, crush dissent and shut you up.
No one can save us from this, we must save ourselves, and one must always bear in mind...
The fault that most men fault in other,
They haue it in their owne selfe so sore
That they can scarce abide it should be tolde,
Yet of their fellowes in it take no hold
Unfortunately, far too many cannot think for themselves. Good times.
Informative read. Thank you. If there's so much being invested in poisoning the well and much much more besides, by the US military, big pharma, and other govermental agencies the world over, does this suggest extreme fear of the truth coming out, or something considerably more pernicious, I wonder?
I am starting to see articles about an analysis of blood samples from a large cohort of patients in Italy in 2019/20, giving 2 cohorts, one with and one without c19.
Those with c19 showed evidence of traces of a variety of snake venoms.
These latch on to nicotine receptors in the brain and other organs. They go on to say that nicotine could block the ability to contract covid.
I don't have any back up references, Hopefully that will emerge if 'speculation' is correct.
This suggests that such venom collections and studies goes back to before the anti smoking campaign in 1960/70s.
Could you ask for a better example of the poisoning of the well described here, than that incredibly stupid story about the water supply being poisoned with snake venom?
Well the other thing that is worth considering is how much all this effort costs. When the pharma companies saying they invest billions in research and that’s why the drugs are so expensive they actually mean that they invest billions in harassment networks, bribes and payments to researchers for shit studies that will never get published but will get the doctors on their side to be future advertisers. That’s where all the money goes.
Sasha has also discredited herself by her constant vicious personal attacks on people, rather than a focus on policy disagreements. She seems more than a bit "off".
Her attacks on Robert Malone for example are well beyond any scientific disagreement.
(1) to get people on the “medical freedom” side fighting each other, having to pick a side between XXX and YYY that is absolutely unnecessary. Remember that there are very few MD’s and PhDs who are working to bring attention to the corruption at the FDA and in Pharma, so getting people to pick fights between them has a very big impact on the community.
(2) Wasting time
(3) Allows them to justify the veiled threats (like those directed at me). Remember that MDs have to live with the threat that these people report them to medical boards, which has happened many times; PhDs have the threat that they will do whatever they can to get their papers retracted (as is happening to multiple members of our small community). This is the cudgel they use to shut us up. Sasha and Jane Ruby have been doing this.
(4) They get to infiltrate groups that are a threat to pharma or to the government dept supporting pharma (DARPA, BARDA). Hence their close (and completely unjustified) closeness to the Paxton case, Brook’s case, and the vaccine injured.
Re: #3. I'm in CALIFORNIA and personally know the names of at least ten MD's who have been reported and targeted by the medical board for speaking about vaccine safety, writing vaccine exemptions or promoting "other" protocols ( there are of course many more names).
This was before COVID. It's so much worse now.
The risk is real and severe for MD's and PhD's who speak up. Most won't step out of line.
Absolutely. So any that do are threatened. That's why Sasha goes out trying to doxx anybody on our team who she can. Yes, that's what she does time and again.
I never had a scientific disagreement with Malone to begin with. Covid and mRNA jabs have nothing to do with science. You discredit yourself by thinking that it is 5 years into this. You could learn the truth but it is more important to you to kiss Malone's ass.
Is it a DARPA vs DTRA thing? I saw exactly the same with Kulacz the "IT fixit guy who doesn't have an IT shop". Did Malone go rogue and you guys are not happy?
Sasha's job was to discredit Malone and anybody who was affiliated with him, because he was one of the largest twitter accounts who pushed back against the COVID vaccines (late in the day, I'll admit). The reason why is likely contained in her affiliation with the Karolinska institute, who wanted all the "glory" for the COVID vaccines. Her rants about me merely belie her insecurity knowing that I know about Boston Analysis Group, Boston Consulting Group, Karolinska, iCardiac and all those other interesting links that go with it.
If, however, you're trying to say Covid and mRNA jabs were used as a proxy for science in order to facilitate more repression and power for military and global elites then that is likely true.
Oh yes she will say that if it keeps her under the radar. And she will tell you that the military was behind it all (we know, thanks to Charles Rixey not Sasha). Then she might even tell you something about some fake military contracts. Then you can LOL
It was not long after the rollout of the C19 shots and online chatter started talking about hyper aggressive cancers in the reproductive systems of women among other things. When surprise, surprise, there was a massive and ongoing increase in advertising by Monash IVF among others. I would suggest one could easily line these ducks up in a row and win a prize. The last couple of months, bowel and prostate cancer ads, all piling up and targeting much younger age groups. Prior to 2020 and the jabs, these things barely rated a mention. Now they are constant. Don't get me started on the government both State and Federal who bombard anyone over sixty with their push to get more vaccines. Shingles, RSV, Influenza, covid shots, they even suggested I retake my childhood vaccines because, my immune system would not recognise those diseases. Measles, mumps, small pox etc. All letters are marked Return to Sender with no stamp. That is the fun bit.
Kind of disappointed that Naomi is also part of the Glowies, considering the Pfizer documents project she spearheaded and how visible she is in general.
Can’t wait to read the other article/project you’re working on.
I'm not sure she is, and I tried to make that clear in the article. But she has certainly been given this information and chose to ignore it in favour of bringing Sasha along for an interview to say exactly the same rubbish again.
"I'm looking at the evidence but don't want to see it" is what feminism does, and you're doing it to avoid attacking a well-known woman who pretends to be on our side. See what your eyes are seeing and move beyond the "women are wonderful" effect.
Rather, I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Steve Kirsch for instance has made multiple missteps but a small part of me believes that he is doing some good in there so I don't block him or make a big thing of his faults. And last time I looked, he seemed male.
Wolf and Latova deserve much credit for the good work they have done. Wolf seems to have gotten off track lately however, and Latova may have gotten carried away on this one. Work overload perhaps?
Great article again. I have to say, that the 82%, in my knowledge was first mentioned by some researchers in Canada and a paper was published by some NZ scientists. I corresponded with the former, and had a college who was friends with the latter. (See here https://madmackiwi.substack.com/p/are-vaccines-safe-for-pregnancy) I have absolutely no reason to believe there was misleading intent. They made their claims based on an error in the CDC Shimabukuru study taking a baseline figure presented in that study that should have been used as the denominator for working out the miscarriage rate. Instead Shimabukuru used another figure which wasn't relevant. They applied it and got 82%. What they didn't know was that the authors had not properly calculated this baseline and it was also incorrect. Shimabukuru had to retract the paper's claims about miscarriage but only did so when the data had been re-jigged to produce another study by Zauche et al. (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113891). In the meantime, The NZ scientists were viciously attacked in the press and medical/scientific community. After reading this article I am left to believe that Shimabukuru may well have deliberately inserted the error to 'poison the well'- you can blame Shimabukuru for it.
I did some analysis of the Shimabukuru data that was available at the time. The average exposure time in the study was only 7 or so weeks out of the 14 weeks a mum is normally exposed to be at risk of Miscarriage (weeks 6-20). From this we would expect about half the normal miscarriages. Instead the number was the same. So again this equates to about double the number. And this should have been reported by Shimabukuru as he had the data available.
Absolutely agree and if you read the “Curious Case” article, which is the first report in the list, you will see that this is what I said at the time. The CDC made this deliberately confusing and it would not surprise me in the slightest if they had pushed the false statistic to Coleen Huber, who is the one proudly claiming that she first discovered that there was (falsely) 82% miscarriages. That then was sold everywhere by Sasha and perhaps one or two others, despite my article.
Dr Syed - you might want to also research increases in ovarian cancers post-vaccine. There was a doctor at John’s Hopkins who discovered a pattern in 2021 of increases in ovarian cancer, and interestingly, at early stages which is most unusual. Perhaps the Covid vaccine inflamed ovarian tumors which allowed them to be discovered earlier? The study was in 2021 but was removed from public view in 2022. Perhaps you can find it, or others? Wondering if readers of this article might also have heard of this?
I am aware. Please understand that there is likely around only a 5% rise in these cancers currently which is difficult to discern from background noise. The biggest area in which the increase in solid tumours was hidden was in the cancer-related deaths about which I published an article all the way back in 2022 https://www.arkmedic.info/p/the-australian-bureau-of-lies-damned
Thank you, I remember this article, it was shocking information. But the increase the Hopkins doctor studied wasn’t in mortality rates. It was the increase in early stage ovarian diagnoses post vaccine in 2021-2022. Ovarian cancers are rarely found in early stages, so she chose to study why it was suddenly occurring, and her data began to prove there was a tie to the Covid vaccine. But then her study vanished, and as you said there’s background noise, it could now be impossible to find accurate data for that year. Ultimately, my thinking is, if the Covid vaccine caused miscarriages at an alarming rate, then it’s possible other female abdominal issues increased in 2021-22 as well. Thank you for listening…
Thanks for this recent update as I had given up. It’s easy to cast aspersions although doubtful anyone is poisoning the well on purpose. It’s easy to confuse increases with overall percentages, or combine 1st and 2nd trimester numbers with 3rd trimester to give a confusing picture. Splitting differences on reported miscarriages vs stillbirths? That detail came out a few weeks after Dr Thorp’s recent testimony during the latest Sen Ron Johnson’s investigation. (Dr Thorp had mentioned in an early interview in 2021-22 that he witnessed a variety of birth defects, a worrisome change from earlier times.)
Just last week, Nic Hulcher posted on x and substack about a 3year old w micro-clots, presumably this condition caused by spikes passed through the placenta.
The timing is interesting, as same week the US CDC scientist in charge of pushing shots on pregnant women resigned her post. This Report is on the CHD website, this move may be even more telling. Are we hardly at the bottom of reported generational damage?? This can get really dark…hoping for the best but it’s possible your thalidomide reference may become more relevant.
"Poisoning the well" is a very effective strategy, it can feed into the drama and hyped up emotional response to a bad situation, but when when it has been disproven it is mostly forgiven and seen as the perpetrators over commitment to the cause then all is forgiven until the next time. Now we have an ineffective loop that goes nowhere, this strategy has been repeated so many times, but no matter if they have malign or benign intentions the same damage occurs.
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Very interesting. I see this poisoning the well very often. For example during the covid emergency (22-23) many claimed all vaccines don't work and germ theory is bunk and nanobots were found (shows odd pics). These claims were paraded around as of every "antivaxxer" believed them or some form of them. In reality most people just wanted informed consent and to not be lied to about safety and efficacy and it is a human rights abuse to fire people for refusing an experimental drug.
Have you ever reached out to either Naomi Wolf or Sasha Latypova about this bogus/planted 82% number? I don't know about Sasha, but Naomi seems sincere in her beliefs (even if I don't always agree with them or with her tactics).
Thanks for your tireless efforts on this front, very much appreciated!
If you saw Sasha's comments about me and our team you would realise what her role is, so there is no reaching out to her. I thought Naomi was different. We have a few people that have reached out to her with all this information but her response was to post that video with Sasha, so I guess that told us what her view was. Disappointing.
When I asked Sasha how she got what surely are the most highly classifieds docs in the history of the world that implicate the DOD in what are without a doubt crimes against humanity (6 billion injected makes Pol Pot look like a saint).... her response was:
She refused to respond and instead hurled homophobic insults at me suggesting I was trying to mate with my dog. She informed me that she was very rich and had a chateau in Bordeaux and that she was on a ski vacation in Aspen and was drinking $400 bottles of wine (and she wants readers to buy her coffee). Hardly the behaviour of a hero who has dedicated her life to saving the world.
When I pressed her for more information on how she was able to get these damning documents, she continued to mock and taunt, and ultimately she banned me - permanently.
I would suggest that Substack is what is known as a Limited Hangout and that Steve and Sasha are two players in a wide network of authors who are feeding the Anti Vaxxers red meat and watching them high-five as they celebrate certain victory.
I would suggest that Steve and Sasha and others are able to appear convincing because they actually believe what they are doing is in the interests of mankind because The Extermination Plan is necessary (as do all those executing The Plan).
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/substack-a-ministry-of-truth-production
And just for fun cuz she is a worthless pc of shit:
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/introducing-super-snatch-sasha
That's more informative than the last one you posted. And yes, you do act exactly like an agent but presumably either from a different department or as part of the same act.
However, I am interested in where these military contracts are.
Has anyone ever seen them, or is it just another apparition/glow op?
Check out Katherine Watts substacks at "Bailiwicks", she has all the details
Here’s a specific video & article where she outlines her findings
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9mFc4_5S0A
Yes I've seen some of that stuff before and just moved on because what she does is similar. Clearly the military believe they are the only people who should control everything, and unfortunately have the power to do so. This is a bad combination. So talking about this will be confronting and needs to be handled with care. Talking about bioweapons and killboxes is easily off putting to the average person and will end up with Watts looking like the same sort of controlled opposition glow op character that we are talking about. To be clear, I'm not saying that about Watt. I am saying that what the military does around the world is so awful that normal people will not believe it, so just saying it "as is" will come across as crazy. It needs framing in an extremely professional and objective way, which Watt doesn't do - I suspect because she is a writer rather than a medic or scientist.
US military is at the tip of the spear of all advanced tech. AU is it’s little pilot fish. Exposing any thread of the vast web of destruction would hopefully lead to it. I think geoeng is the most obvious & heinous crime happening right now. SRMGI (governance initiative to normalise SRM - to normalise all spraying, be it pathogens/ experiments / actual SRM). So visible in the skies + with apps, polluting & killing flora & fauna, freak weather devastation of animals & infrastructure. One could have the whole army of environmentalists on our side if they can tune in to what’s happening. However, touching this content seems to result in extreme censorship. Like James Corbett’s echo of Orwell - hope lies in the Proletariat - hopefully the ‘sheeple’ can be made to see & understand this most heinous crime
Sasha seemed to come on the scene with Watt & I suspect Watt uncovered the info & Sasha swooped in to partly control it (Sasha’s daughter is Soph, which indicates glowie networks)
What I’ve noticed about Naomi Wolf is that she is really really really innumerate. Like totally. She has absolutely no clue. You can point out figures until you’re blue in the face but you might as well be speaking Chinese. She cannot tell the difference between the correct calculation and a bogus one. She has no instinctive sense for numbers that might flag to her she is barking up the wrong tree. She is also overly emotional and too arrogant to even consider that she might be wrong.
She can write reasonably well.
Whether she is a honest actor, I do not know. But as someone who is good at maths, I can’t help but think she is a complete moron.
Latypova almost certainly knows better though. Which is suspect.
I can accept this explanation. The more I read about Sasha the more it seems that she is the person that has ingratiated herself into so many people that this cannot be accidental
Wolf is fast losing her credibility with her attacks on Israel and RFK.
I don't know that she had any. I was happy to support her while she was apparently supporting the hard working people that crunched numbers for her to take all the credit. Now that she is threatening a defamation suit in response to my article (which is pretty ironic) she has pretty much laid her cards on the table.
I was expecting it, and frankly irritated that people were trusting a feminist.
Lying and BS is what feminism is all about.
Oh poor anonymous dear! you are so afraid of posting a direct comment or question. Gosh, what would happen to you if you asked me a question or reach out ANONYMOUS troll? Nobody reached out to me, you are lying as usual. If anyone reached out, please post evidence that they did. You need to lie even about smallest things like that. A bunch of anonymous mouse trolls on X hurling abuse is not "reaching out".
You will remember that your attack on mice accounts (which you bizarrely included with some attack on Robert Malone) predated any pushback.
Anonymity is required when our careers and families, and the careers and families of unrelated people, are directly threatened by pharma harassment networks that you chose to join, which you should have seen in an FBI report some time last year. Perhaps you forgot.
People reached out to Naomi, Jim and Kim. Naomi's response was to get you on her show and double down on the false story. It would have been better if she had gotten Jim on her show, but she didn't.
Once a feminist always a feminist. Like communism it's a brain-rot with no recovery, indeed it's a strain of the same disease.
She deals in emotions and victimhood, and if that means wilful ignorance she will embrace that without a second thought.
You simply cannot trust a feminist - they lie for a living.
But not only that, Latypova has latched onto another seemingly sincere person by the name of Katherine Watt.
Ah that’s interesting. I had been hearing that but hadn’t investigated. I’ll keep my tentacles on alert.
He never tried to reach out to us, because he is a bullshit artist con op, and he is not interested in the truth. He is paid to smear us. My numbers are correct. Read the f-ing paper by Shimabukuro, it clearly states 827 pregnancies included in their analysis. so whatever Arkmedic/Jikky adds to the denominator is designed to artificially inflate it.
Per the actual paper that you didn't read:
"Receipt of a first dose of vaccine meeting registry-eligibility criteria was reported by 92 participants (2.3%) during the periconception period, by 1132 (28.6%) in the first trimester of pregnancy, by 1714 (43.3%) in the second trimester, and by 1019 (25.7%) in the third trimester (1 participant was missing information to determine the timing of vaccination) (Table 3)"
827 was the number of completed pregnancies because, in case you forgot, pregnancy takes about 9 months to complete and this paper collated data to March 30, 2021 from women enrolled after Dec 14th 2020.
So the only completed pregnancies were those where the vaccine was given in the 3rd trimester (700) and those where there had been a miscarriage/ectopic/termination (127) of which most (duh) were miscarriages.
The other 1105 pregnancies from the first trimester were ongoing at the time of the paper, as were the other 2000 or so.
If you read it, you would know that. Who wrote your script please?
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Per the actual paper that you didn't read:
"Receipt of a first dose of vaccine meeting registry-eligibility criteria was reported by 92 participants (2.3%) during the periconception period, by 1132 (28.6%) in the first trimester of pregnancy, by 1714 (43.3%) in the second trimester, and by 1019 (25.7%) in the third trimester (1 participant was missing information to determine the timing of vaccination) (Table 3)"
827 was the number of completed pregnancies because, in case you forgot, pregnancy takes about 9 months to complete and this paper collated data to March 30, 2021 from women enrolled after Dec 14th 2020.
So the only completed pregnancies were those where the vaccine was given in the 3rd trimester (700) and those where there had been a miscarriage/ectopic/termination (127) of which most (duh) were miscarriages.
The other 1105 pregnancies from the first trimester were ongoing at the time of the paper, as were the other 2000 or so.
If you read it, you would know that. Who wrote your script please?
But clearly 82% of post-vax pregnancies aren't ending in miscarriages? Right?
Correct, given most women in Australia and some other countries were forced to be vaccinated you would think the drop in fertility rate would have been much more dramatic than the 2-4% recorded.
But from 2 to 4% is a doubling, or 200%! in Pharma RRR terms.
On an individual basis this is hard to notice. When I was delivering babies (1980-2001) as a GP, I might have had 20- 25 per year, down to 12 in my sparse years.
If a midwife had 100 deliveries in an average year the variation could be from 80 to 110 or so. It would be difficult to know individually whether 2022 with 82 births was unusual if 2020 provided 95 babies. One would need to track and collate a population of about 200,000 to spot the drop in fertility, and then honestly report the numbers.
I did initially fall for the "95% effective" trick, despite being aware of the use of RRR in Pharma promotion, and knowing that no medical intervention provides 95% efficacy.
To say there has been an INCREASE of 82% in miscarriages,then you are close to the truth. But if you say the current miscarriage rate in pregnant womwn is 82%,then that is obviously false and erroneous. Naomi and Sacha need to clear this up
Yes they definitely said it was the miscarriage rate, and I know where they got their (erroneously calculated) figures from. But the increase is probably 80-100%. It's impossible to be sure without access to the correct data, and it looks like they don't want us to have it.
Thanks Dr Syed, you have done an amazing illucidation of this really important issue. Further obfuscation by the perps only reinforces your points of contention. The issue of pregnancy disruprion is hugely critical in a moral and healthy society
Apologies, didn't know you had done a breakdown in the past on fetal abnormalities.
Could it have been a misunderstanding of an apx 80% increase in miscarriages misinterpreted as 82% miscarriage rate?
There was an article by Global Research early in the vax push, it said that half of the people in Isreal who were vaccinated had covid. But actually it was that, Of the people in a certain sample who tested positive for covid, Half of Those had been vaccinated. I don't know if it was an intentional mislead or not, but that made it hard for me to trust Global Research ...
The DMED Dept' of Defense data showing huge increases in health problems is based on untrustworthy numbers, yet it's still cited, it was mentioned in Follow the Silenced. Math / data genius Mathew Crawford explains the DMED sage here - https://www.campfire.wiki/doku.php?id=rounding_the_earth:the_dmed_saga
I read almost everything from Naomi Wolf, whose expertise is not data ... I can't wrap my head around her being an intentional agent of misdirection ...
Hoping this is misunderstandings / stubborn personalities. I don't doubt the concept of controlled opposition, and maybe I'm naive, but I can't believe Wolf would choose exile from her liberal tribe, be an early voice of sharing stories of menstrual disruptions, facilitate all that going through the Pfizer documents, expose their clinical trial data - which was what convinced me that this is much worse than pharma cutting safety corners to put profits over people ... all to actually help the official narrative and help the ones poisoning people ...
Thank you for your thorough work ....
Yes I did think that briefly the other day but it doesn't check out. What I actually think is happening is that Sasha has befriended these people so convincingly that they actually think that she is on their side, so therefore must be right. Someone like me comes along and it's easier to shout at me than to say that their new best friend is wrong, because they didn't do their due diligence (and art) in vetting the person.
I would bet this point your largely right about Sasha and though she's able to write at a professional, diplomatic,and high scientific level .at least by appearance in a substantial percentage of her articles she never is able to sustain this spirit beyond extreme level feisty,wrathful attack mode reveals someone insincere in best of humanity preservations against elites or cultists or legions,etc were uo against in many tech or related dark areas.
Naomi,everyone here is hoping cuz of her soft hearted,Mama next door,kind eyes, beauty and sincere sounding delivery were not being fooled..I'm 50/50 on her after reading this article..I do think she's soft headed enuff to screw up the math and be pressured by the jive sharks trying to skew things outside of court and peer review seriousness to put down serious challenges (in the 2-4 x increases your citing,plenty to use in sincere challenge..).
However ,she did go into a rant about because being a dedicated jew, seemingly leaning towards zionist by not differentiating at this critical time in history last month..very suspicious..again not enuff to convict but if one looks at the dozens of prime time network or close liberal reporters who've shifted to republican...some even now shifting back to liberal it's apparent these people are being directed often..not all ..but most seems.
I encourage you and others to cite these numbers revised to Naomi and pressure her to recant etc one cuz I want to believe she really is kind and 2 she deserves every chance to prove her self legit again..
Makes me ashamed of myself like most readers here to realize weakness so common in math has let this issue skip by for several years ,weakening our cases.
Please submit this info to Leslie Moonikian,Idaho lawyer with more legit vaxx and mask etc court wins then anybody..who seems to win by avoiding confrontational, conspiracy accusations and getting them on smaller issues of violations of their own rules and laws that even they lost track of seems coveting the bigger stuff they though they'd be attacked on..She's fully aware of bio wpn issue level but realizes gauranteed loss challenging there as you need to prove murder intent of dozens in the line of invention, manufacturing, distribution and they own the courts so if you begin to win it's shut down n gagged..often just by citing invention patent secrets alone= most advocating court attack here also what your talking about,phony players going too far to win, intentionally!
Lesson: underplay everything ie they failed to meet minimum testing of this one chemical they promised to do and falsified this one document, disqualifying entire drug! Also seen jaywalking daily in front of lab while picking their nose showing contempt of law, whatever little shit they never saw coming to unravel big shit is way of Moonikian,opposite of Sasha, Kingston,others like..Id considered this before by instincts but got suckered like rest I'm embarrassed to admit..I so regret cheating and paying off my classmates to get by math classes I fell behind in..I was smart enough to catch up in other subjects after long beer sessions reigned over academics but just couldn't catch up on math..you really have to be taught each stage or your lost!
Thanks for rescuing us ie those anti vaxxers, anti nano still trying to stay on board this crazy train of care over try to wiggle head deeper in sand option most have now chosen due to seemingly hopeless intensity of matter..
I suggest spending time corresponding with all 30 or so top researchers on sub..
How do you feel about howbadismybatch.com? Still legit on 95+ % of side effects deaths caused by 4% if covid batch numbers(4% showing different markers too=intent proof)..or baloney?!
I think it's probably ok but I haven't personally found it useful. Also it was other people that did that work, she just piggy backed on it!
Craig P.created Howbadismybatch and doesn't directly involved Sasha or Naomi but it's a influentia mainstay anti vaxxl site that did or does contain Sasha's off figures..and likely others..please consider contacting Craig.
Point is sure shows 3-10 percent of vaxx numbered lots are marked differently and cause 90 percent plus of deaths,etc and are distributed to effect republican , Christian counties approx 77 percent more...
Majority's of covid stats and hundred plus researchers are there..
Thank you for your service.
There are many activists/dissidents out there. Some are good, some are bad and some are in between. It is good to know what sort they are so we can know what information is worth sharing and working on.
One thing I have found is that many of the bad and mixed activists still sometimes have good information or link to other good activists while building their reputation.
I have progressively stopped following those that are compromised and focused on their sources that appear still to be honest.
Seeking truth in the modern world is even more difficult these days.
Yes, focus on the information, not the person. One of the worst IMO, who is deeply embedded in the health freedom movement, nevertheless is a true expert in one area, and that is where I listen to him. The rest from him is malarky and even damaging. Sadly too many IMO take everything he says as gospel just because of his deep expertise in one area.
Spot on
I loved this article. I listened regarding the 82% drop in completed pregnancies and other things early on and I am sure cited it in 2021-2022. The problem was that the drop in pregnancies that end in live births, while significant and worrying, were nowhere near these figures. It looks around 15% drop in live births since jab rollout but over a few years. It's going down mostly every year, which is terrifying, but not in the "Every jabbed person will be dead in two years" or the "Every jabbed woman will be rendered infertile" way on this.
I remember as a clear example of poisoning the well something my very very very pro life Catholic ex nun mother and some of her Catholic friends would say: "Every woman who has an abortion will be infertiler for life. " Really? It seemed a little extreme but I heard it from several people (all older women). Of course then when statistics on pregnancy or a woman became pregnant with a wanted pregnancy after abortion came out it all obviously looked like some religious bunkus. Exactly as an opp would be intended to do, methinks...
Amy, please unsub from me. Actually, I just removed your email. I don't need subscribers who can't tell a freakin anonymous mouse op for 5 years and fall for this crap again and again. I am interested in a dialogue with honest people only. Thanks.
You are providing the expected responses. Keep going.
Just to raise a point of contention, the reason I refer to the tactics you mention as 'Discredit-by-Association', is 'poisoning the well' has a specific definition within philosophy; it usually means to present negative information about a person or concept (not to misrepresent a person's argument; you're thinking of a *strawman argument*, not a well poisoning). For example, if I posit 'anyone who likes the colour red are blood thirsty serial killers', that would be a poisoning the well.
Currently, there's no term designed to refer to the kind of Intel Agency tactics that have existed since, arguably, the JFK shooting. I call it discredit-by-association, because the other term 'guilt-by-association' has the closest definition that 'a bad person associated with a group is used to discredit the entire group'. The classic example: 'Hitler was a vegetarian, therefore all vegetarians are bad'.
In this case, however, the individual themselves isn't obviously the bad person - their arguments are. So the arguments are a discredit-by-association (they try to associate discredited arguments as a fallacious tactic to refute). I've coined the phrase and I'm hoping to see wider adoption in the lexicon. DbA attacks are numerous organisations bread-and-butter; the reason I don't refer to it as a 'strawman argument', is the definition of a strawman is one presented by the opposition (I.E. they mischaracterise what you said), rather than someone pretending to be an ally presenting their own wonky argument and associating with the outgroup.
Hopefully what I said made sense. I think you mean 'discredit-by-association' rather than poisoning the well. Thank you for attending my TedX talk. ; )
Yes and it's a conundrum I already faced. I thought about taking your view but preferred the well poisoning. It's really a combination of the two and almost its own logical fallacy. We definitely need a term for it. Back in the day I wanted to call it the "Macartney effect" after the even whereby they buried a story about the huge amounts of grants that Kristine Macartney received to sell vaccines, by making up junk about what she said in a court case.
From a person not familiar w/ the interesting origin/philosophy's meaning of the expression, 'Poisoning the well' gave me a clear understanding of the purposefully malevolent set-up process/how it works...imo the PROCESS (moving parts; this happens 1st, then this & this are put in place) is what's important to understand vs how the terms are defined for use in philosophical arguments. Dialysis RN in the long ago...my mind brought up, 'Oh, it's like, 'Priming the Pump'...but it's not as simple as that..
The problem is well poisoning has it's own definition and you'd be confusing a lot of seasoned debaters and philosophers (example: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/us-and-them/202310/how-poisoning-the-well-hurts-everyone).
I like your Macartney effect (although it sounds a bit like McCarthy), however my concern is it paints the effect as being only vaccine industry related.
The practice was as early as the JFK shooting (the 'magic bullet' absurdism theory) and was most visibly used during 9/11 when people started asking questions, with the injection of 'plane denialists' who claimed the planes didn't exist, the 'holographic planes' BS inserted by ex-MI6 members; might sound familiar given the whole 'viruses don't exist' and 'nukes don't exist' (ala Mike Yeadon, another ex-pharma employee) arguments.
Discredit-by-association doesn't quite roll off the tongue as nicely, but it is a literalism. For me the distinction: DbA describes an entire industry-wide practice used by a lot of organisations (agencies, shills, NGOs, corporations, entire media outlets, etc), and isn't just merely a descriptor for a bad form of logical argument.
Logical fallacies are when an opponent makes mistakes debating in good faith; but in this case, the errors are intentional and part of psychological warfare operations; propaganda, even. So it isn't just 'your arguments are wrong', but 'this entire conduct is evil'.
I would suggest taking the various terms to your Mouse army friends and brain storming for a better descriptor.
You explained it very clearly in this article, it is a strawman tactic I have seen the media do all the time.
What would be one in reverse? Make up a Dr Norman Swan type media spox and have him say exaggerated stuff like "taking covid vaccines will make you live to 130 with the health of a 30yo". Something like that.
Wish we could do it back but our side is committed to factual accuracy
I’m not persuaded that it is useful to argue over “what is the best label.” Certainly “poisoning the well” creates a vivid picture of intentional harm in a way that “straw-man” does not.
Accuracy in terminology is important; if you don't care about accuracy, then you're engaging in the same flaws you accuse the opponent. Poisoning the well already has a definition that is widely used, and it means a specific sub-genre of "slander" at an opponent:
https://finmasters.com/poisoning-the-well/
And I didn't propose strawman argument as the replacement. I proposed discredit-by-association, because that is exactly how it works. Please read my comment fully next time.
Haha I did read it, I’m just disagreeing with you. DbA attempts to solve a problem but would be considered by most people to relate to a person rather than a story, so you’ve ended up in the same pit as I’m in.
Yes a strawman argument is the correct term. Yes it is discredit by association. Media does it ALL the time, it is a terrible tactic.
This is not only immensely disturbing to know about the birth defects, as it is the first time I have read this; but to learn that Naomi Wolf, who I have genuinely believed was a trustworthy source of researched knowledge, was hyping up the statistics of miscarriages, due to trusting what Sasha had found. There has to be a bigger drama in all of this, beyond what you state about Sasha being a "glowie", and Naomi wanting the attention for both of them. Furthermore, when Naomi published and lectured about the information she found after analyzing 300,000 Pfizer documents released via a FOIA request, and stated that 44 percent of pregnant women who participated in the drug maker’s COVID-19 vaccine trial lost their babies, wasn't this investigated in advance? She has been a heroine in her reporting on the dangers of the Covid vaccine to many of us, and has risked her whole life to do so. . . .It would be good to try to work together. The world needs a collective conscious comradery, not a contentious separation which weakens us all, toward the determined goal.
Yes please understand that Naomi is the PR front for the Pfizer papers, but the workers did the work. Some of them have co-published with me or in other substacks. They are rarely credited.
How can truth-seekers partner with “deception-designers”?
Ah Kahn Syed clearly...
MDM (mis dis mal) information psyops poison the well and muddy the waters by design. Those engaged in such are in the MDM business, and as always business is booming.
Opinion, criticism, facts and reality itself can be stamped with MDM. When deployed in a precise way - those labels become instruments to distract from reality, confuse, crush dissent and shut you up.
No one can save us from this, we must save ourselves, and one must always bear in mind...
The fault that most men fault in other,
They haue it in their owne selfe so sore
That they can scarce abide it should be tolde,
Yet of their fellowes in it take no hold
Unfortunately, far too many cannot think for themselves. Good times.
MDM. I hadn't seen that before but it's an easy acronym
Informative read. Thank you. If there's so much being invested in poisoning the well and much much more besides, by the US military, big pharma, and other govermental agencies the world over, does this suggest extreme fear of the truth coming out, or something considerably more pernicious, I wonder?
The people in charge are only fearful of one thing... the proletariat finding out what they did.
It has been this way since the Roman empire.
I am starting to see articles about an analysis of blood samples from a large cohort of patients in Italy in 2019/20, giving 2 cohorts, one with and one without c19.
Those with c19 showed evidence of traces of a variety of snake venoms.
These latch on to nicotine receptors in the brain and other organs. They go on to say that nicotine could block the ability to contract covid.
I don't have any back up references, Hopefully that will emerge if 'speculation' is correct.
This suggests that such venom collections and studies goes back to before the anti smoking campaign in 1960/70s.
Could you ask for a better example of the poisoning of the well described here, than that incredibly stupid story about the water supply being poisoned with snake venom?
Pretty much top of the list, although fighting with graphene bluetooth nanobots (self assembling of course)
Hmmm, poisoning the well can have many forms ,,,
Well the other thing that is worth considering is how much all this effort costs. When the pharma companies saying they invest billions in research and that’s why the drugs are so expensive they actually mean that they invest billions in harassment networks, bribes and payments to researchers for shit studies that will never get published but will get the doctors on their side to be future advertisers. That’s where all the money goes.
Sasha has also discredited herself by her constant vicious personal attacks on people, rather than a focus on policy disagreements. She seems more than a bit "off".
Her attacks on Robert Malone for example are well beyond any scientific disagreement.
Yet people seem to be drawn to the drama.
Yes I think it serves multiple purposes
(1) to get people on the “medical freedom” side fighting each other, having to pick a side between XXX and YYY that is absolutely unnecessary. Remember that there are very few MD’s and PhDs who are working to bring attention to the corruption at the FDA and in Pharma, so getting people to pick fights between them has a very big impact on the community.
(2) Wasting time
(3) Allows them to justify the veiled threats (like those directed at me). Remember that MDs have to live with the threat that these people report them to medical boards, which has happened many times; PhDs have the threat that they will do whatever they can to get their papers retracted (as is happening to multiple members of our small community). This is the cudgel they use to shut us up. Sasha and Jane Ruby have been doing this.
(4) They get to infiltrate groups that are a threat to pharma or to the government dept supporting pharma (DARPA, BARDA). Hence their close (and completely unjustified) closeness to the Paxton case, Brook’s case, and the vaccine injured.
#2 should be #1 :) kidding but not...
Re: #3. I'm in CALIFORNIA and personally know the names of at least ten MD's who have been reported and targeted by the medical board for speaking about vaccine safety, writing vaccine exemptions or promoting "other" protocols ( there are of course many more names).
This was before COVID. It's so much worse now.
The risk is real and severe for MD's and PhD's who speak up. Most won't step out of line.
Absolutely. So any that do are threatened. That's why Sasha goes out trying to doxx anybody on our team who she can. Yes, that's what she does time and again.
I never had a scientific disagreement with Malone to begin with. Covid and mRNA jabs have nothing to do with science. You discredit yourself by thinking that it is 5 years into this. You could learn the truth but it is more important to you to kiss Malone's ass.
Why are you obsessed by Robert Malone? We aren't.
Is it a DARPA vs DTRA thing? I saw exactly the same with Kulacz the "IT fixit guy who doesn't have an IT shop". Did Malone go rogue and you guys are not happy?
If you cannot discuss an issue on its merits without gaslighting, especially a scientific issue, then you are guided by propaganda, not science.
Sasha's job was to discredit Malone and anybody who was affiliated with him, because he was one of the largest twitter accounts who pushed back against the COVID vaccines (late in the day, I'll admit). The reason why is likely contained in her affiliation with the Karolinska institute, who wanted all the "glory" for the COVID vaccines. Her rants about me merely belie her insecurity knowing that I know about Boston Analysis Group, Boston Consulting Group, Karolinska, iCardiac and all those other interesting links that go with it.
If, however, you're trying to say Covid and mRNA jabs were used as a proxy for science in order to facilitate more repression and power for military and global elites then that is likely true.
Oh yes she will say that if it keeps her under the radar. And she will tell you that the military was behind it all (we know, thanks to Charles Rixey not Sasha). Then she might even tell you something about some fake military contracts. Then you can LOL
It was not long after the rollout of the C19 shots and online chatter started talking about hyper aggressive cancers in the reproductive systems of women among other things. When surprise, surprise, there was a massive and ongoing increase in advertising by Monash IVF among others. I would suggest one could easily line these ducks up in a row and win a prize. The last couple of months, bowel and prostate cancer ads, all piling up and targeting much younger age groups. Prior to 2020 and the jabs, these things barely rated a mention. Now they are constant. Don't get me started on the government both State and Federal who bombard anyone over sixty with their push to get more vaccines. Shingles, RSV, Influenza, covid shots, they even suggested I retake my childhood vaccines because, my immune system would not recognise those diseases. Measles, mumps, small pox etc. All letters are marked Return to Sender with no stamp. That is the fun bit.
Great article, Ark, as usual.
Kind of disappointed that Naomi is also part of the Glowies, considering the Pfizer documents project she spearheaded and how visible she is in general.
Can’t wait to read the other article/project you’re working on.
Much love and gratitude, as always.
I'm not sure she is, and I tried to make that clear in the article. But she has certainly been given this information and chose to ignore it in favour of bringing Sasha along for an interview to say exactly the same rubbish again.
"I'm looking at the evidence but don't want to see it" is what feminism does, and you're doing it to avoid attacking a well-known woman who pretends to be on our side. See what your eyes are seeing and move beyond the "women are wonderful" effect.
Rather, I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Steve Kirsch for instance has made multiple missteps but a small part of me believes that he is doing some good in there so I don't block him or make a big thing of his faults. And last time I looked, he seemed male.
Wolf and Latova deserve much credit for the good work they have done. Wolf seems to have gotten off track lately however, and Latova may have gotten carried away on this one. Work overload perhaps?
Did you look into her background? You might want to check the spelling before you do.
Please summarize background worse in a couple paragraphs or less cuz we're all now attention deficited by these damn computers etc.thnx
Great article again. I have to say, that the 82%, in my knowledge was first mentioned by some researchers in Canada and a paper was published by some NZ scientists. I corresponded with the former, and had a college who was friends with the latter. (See here https://madmackiwi.substack.com/p/are-vaccines-safe-for-pregnancy) I have absolutely no reason to believe there was misleading intent. They made their claims based on an error in the CDC Shimabukuru study taking a baseline figure presented in that study that should have been used as the denominator for working out the miscarriage rate. Instead Shimabukuru used another figure which wasn't relevant. They applied it and got 82%. What they didn't know was that the authors had not properly calculated this baseline and it was also incorrect. Shimabukuru had to retract the paper's claims about miscarriage but only did so when the data had been re-jigged to produce another study by Zauche et al. (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113891). In the meantime, The NZ scientists were viciously attacked in the press and medical/scientific community. After reading this article I am left to believe that Shimabukuru may well have deliberately inserted the error to 'poison the well'- you can blame Shimabukuru for it.
I did some analysis of the Shimabukuru data that was available at the time. The average exposure time in the study was only 7 or so weeks out of the 14 weeks a mum is normally exposed to be at risk of Miscarriage (weeks 6-20). From this we would expect about half the normal miscarriages. Instead the number was the same. So again this equates to about double the number. And this should have been reported by Shimabukuru as he had the data available.
Absolutely agree and if you read the “Curious Case” article, which is the first report in the list, you will see that this is what I said at the time. The CDC made this deliberately confusing and it would not surprise me in the slightest if they had pushed the false statistic to Coleen Huber, who is the one proudly claiming that she first discovered that there was (falsely) 82% miscarriages. That then was sold everywhere by Sasha and perhaps one or two others, despite my article.
Dr Syed - you might want to also research increases in ovarian cancers post-vaccine. There was a doctor at John’s Hopkins who discovered a pattern in 2021 of increases in ovarian cancer, and interestingly, at early stages which is most unusual. Perhaps the Covid vaccine inflamed ovarian tumors which allowed them to be discovered earlier? The study was in 2021 but was removed from public view in 2022. Perhaps you can find it, or others? Wondering if readers of this article might also have heard of this?
I am aware. Please understand that there is likely around only a 5% rise in these cancers currently which is difficult to discern from background noise. The biggest area in which the increase in solid tumours was hidden was in the cancer-related deaths about which I published an article all the way back in 2022 https://www.arkmedic.info/p/the-australian-bureau-of-lies-damned
Thank you, I remember this article, it was shocking information. But the increase the Hopkins doctor studied wasn’t in mortality rates. It was the increase in early stage ovarian diagnoses post vaccine in 2021-2022. Ovarian cancers are rarely found in early stages, so she chose to study why it was suddenly occurring, and her data began to prove there was a tie to the Covid vaccine. But then her study vanished, and as you said there’s background noise, it could now be impossible to find accurate data for that year. Ultimately, my thinking is, if the Covid vaccine caused miscarriages at an alarming rate, then it’s possible other female abdominal issues increased in 2021-22 as well. Thank you for listening…
Thanks for this recent update as I had given up. It’s easy to cast aspersions although doubtful anyone is poisoning the well on purpose. It’s easy to confuse increases with overall percentages, or combine 1st and 2nd trimester numbers with 3rd trimester to give a confusing picture. Splitting differences on reported miscarriages vs stillbirths? That detail came out a few weeks after Dr Thorp’s recent testimony during the latest Sen Ron Johnson’s investigation. (Dr Thorp had mentioned in an early interview in 2021-22 that he witnessed a variety of birth defects, a worrisome change from earlier times.)
Just last week, Nic Hulcher posted on x and substack about a 3year old w micro-clots, presumably this condition caused by spikes passed through the placenta.
The timing is interesting, as same week the US CDC scientist in charge of pushing shots on pregnant women resigned her post. This Report is on the CHD website, this move may be even more telling. Are we hardly at the bottom of reported generational damage?? This can get really dark…hoping for the best but it’s possible your thalidomide reference may become more relevant.