I know from experience participating in some such communities, that generally the way online astroturfing networks work is that a few professional spooks or PR organisers work behind the scenes to motivate and coordinate genuine partisans for the cause. Sometimes there are no professionals behind the scenes, or sometimes those professio…
I know from experience participating in some such communities, that generally the way online astroturfing networks work is that a few professional spooks or PR organisers work behind the scenes to motivate and coordinate genuine partisans for the cause. Sometimes there are no professionals behind the scenes, or sometimes those professionals are genuine experts acting in their capacity as experts without any corrupt motive. The point is I wouldn't assume that everyone who is "sarcastically" identifying as 77th is actually 77th. Most of them, including perhaps some of the most prominent experts, probably believe they are just a group of disinterested individuals in touch through Twitter DMs and nothing more. Does this mean the 77th or similar group is not playing a key role? No it doesn't. But it does mean that charting a social network who use the same signifiers and then calling them all spooks is too simplistic.
That's exactly how the antivax cult works. A few grifters like Malone, Yeadon, Cahill, Kennedy, Mercola etc motivated by money whip up a frenzy using lies and misleading information, and the paranoid fringe lap it up.
Everybody is a grifter who doesn't agree with you. Right. But why are your lot not grifters? Viki got a Borne grant and Graham got his soliloquy published so they benefited. Why is that not grifting?
How much does Malone make from his subscribers? How rich is Mercola? How much is Kennedy worth?
Grifters who push lies and propaganda and are quite happy killing people vs. medical professionals doing controlled and evaluated studies - no comparison.
Are you actually not seeing the damage being done? Are you actually not seeing how Covid was actually nothing? Seriously? At what point will you waken?
Yeah. virtually every online community except for a few underground ones actually works this way. You, pro-vaxxers, only belie your presumption of intellectual authority by acting like there's any difference between yourselves and us in this regard. (Also, there's a big difference key nodes being - or rather, containing - a few grifters on the one hand, and major governments, intel agencies and billion dollar pharma companies on the other. Who has greater conflicts of interest?)
Ok. What you do is get your friends in government to agree hidden contracts that the people pay for but are not allowed to see. Then you make sure that the government incentivise the media to support those contracts and dismiss anybody raising concerns about them as a crank. Then you send out trolls on social media (who you pay peanuts if anything, but because of their lapdog-like mentality they follow blindly) who swarm on any dissenters. Finally your contract (the one you can't see) absolves you of any liability for the said product (that doesn't work).
I wonder does this apply to all of the 23 covid vaccine developers and 132 covid vaccine manufacturers or just Pfizer? Antivaxxer-in-chief Joseph Mercola who kills people by spreading lies has a net worth of 3x that of the Pfizer CEO who makes pharmacuticals that save lives and help people - but the little flock of antivax sheep dont bleat about that.
Exactly, perfectly stated, Marvin! Albert Bourla knows all about sheep, am I right? That vet school sure came in handy! I’m so glad you and I are free thinkers and really encourage you to get irreversibly injected with shots over and over and over again. You’re a true iconoclast!
Everyone knows that Vitamin D manufacturers are literally immune from all liability while the .gov mandates its use and then has some really well spoken, continent leader whisper screaming and threatening those who don’t use it! And then the .gov even advertises it! Money printer go BRRRRRR and then you have zoomers dancing on TikTok and childless 85IQ narcissist males screeching at those who don’t consume the product! And then the profits are privatized while the losses are socialized, which is literally exactly how capitalism works. Mercola has killed literally MILLIONS of pregnant men with his Vitamin D.
You are a clueless, low IQ clown....I'm willing to donate all my useless, ineffective bullshit boosters to you as you quite obviously can't get enough!!
I know from experience participating in some such communities, that generally the way online astroturfing networks work is that a few professional spooks or PR organisers work behind the scenes to motivate and coordinate genuine partisans for the cause. Sometimes there are no professionals behind the scenes, or sometimes those professionals are genuine experts acting in their capacity as experts without any corrupt motive. The point is I wouldn't assume that everyone who is "sarcastically" identifying as 77th is actually 77th. Most of them, including perhaps some of the most prominent experts, probably believe they are just a group of disinterested individuals in touch through Twitter DMs and nothing more. Does this mean the 77th or similar group is not playing a key role? No it doesn't. But it does mean that charting a social network who use the same signifiers and then calling them all spooks is too simplistic.
That's exactly how the antivax cult works. A few grifters like Malone, Yeadon, Cahill, Kennedy, Mercola etc motivated by money whip up a frenzy using lies and misleading information, and the paranoid fringe lap it up.
Everybody is a grifter who doesn't agree with you. Right. But why are your lot not grifters? Viki got a Borne grant and Graham got his soliloquy published so they benefited. Why is that not grifting?
How much does Malone make from his subscribers? How rich is Mercola? How much is Kennedy worth?
Grifters who push lies and propaganda and are quite happy killing people vs. medical professionals doing controlled and evaluated studies - no comparison.
You're not very good with questions are you? Actually that's a question so just assume it's a statement
You're not very good discussing actual facts with educated doctors and immunologists are you? Actually that's a fact not a question.
Happy to discuss, tell them to come here where we can discuss without getting banned
Are you actually not seeing the damage being done? Are you actually not seeing how Covid was actually nothing? Seriously? At what point will you waken?
Talking to Marvin.
Yeah. virtually every online community except for a few underground ones actually works this way. You, pro-vaxxers, only belie your presumption of intellectual authority by acting like there's any difference between yourselves and us in this regard. (Also, there's a big difference key nodes being - or rather, containing - a few grifters on the one hand, and major governments, intel agencies and billion dollar pharma companies on the other. Who has greater conflicts of interest?)
The government is literally the biggest grifter of them all at this point
If it's so important to you to get the "truth" out there why do you charge a subscription for your substack?
I don't. You don't read well do you?
Exactly Marvin! Pfizer doesn’t make a cent off the vaccines that is why they are FREE!
Please educate me on how I can start a pharmacuticals business manufacturing vaccines for free, thanks.
Ok. What you do is get your friends in government to agree hidden contracts that the people pay for but are not allowed to see. Then you make sure that the government incentivise the media to support those contracts and dismiss anybody raising concerns about them as a crank. Then you send out trolls on social media (who you pay peanuts if anything, but because of their lapdog-like mentality they follow blindly) who swarm on any dissenters. Finally your contract (the one you can't see) absolves you of any liability for the said product (that doesn't work).
Bingo.
Are you trying to say Pfizer is a bunch of grifters? You disgust me
I wonder does this apply to all of the 23 covid vaccine developers and 132 covid vaccine manufacturers or just Pfizer? Antivaxxer-in-chief Joseph Mercola who kills people by spreading lies has a net worth of 3x that of the Pfizer CEO who makes pharmacuticals that save lives and help people - but the little flock of antivax sheep dont bleat about that.
What a load of deluded clap-trap!
I hear that Joe Mercola looks out for these kind of social media posts and uses them for lawsuits which is how he makes his money
Exactly, perfectly stated, Marvin! Albert Bourla knows all about sheep, am I right? That vet school sure came in handy! I’m so glad you and I are free thinkers and really encourage you to get irreversibly injected with shots over and over and over again. You’re a true iconoclast!
Everyone knows that Vitamin D manufacturers are literally immune from all liability while the .gov mandates its use and then has some really well spoken, continent leader whisper screaming and threatening those who don’t use it! And then the .gov even advertises it! Money printer go BRRRRRR and then you have zoomers dancing on TikTok and childless 85IQ narcissist males screeching at those who don’t consume the product! And then the profits are privatized while the losses are socialized, which is literally exactly how capitalism works. Mercola has killed literally MILLIONS of pregnant men with his Vitamin D.
You are a clueless, low IQ clown....I'm willing to donate all my useless, ineffective bullshit boosters to you as you quite obviously can't get enough!!