The CDC sent biological weapons to Iraq in 1989 to create a heinous war on a staged pretext. Somebody doesn't want us to talk about it - so we need to talk about it.
Great article! The 'PANDATA' crew have become increasingly hostile and obnoxious in their rhetoric; one tried to insist there was no way for a virus to transfer from 'humanized mice' to humans. The mechanism is literally in the name of the type of genetically modified mouse.
If the gain-of-function (GoF) research didn't exist, why did Ralph Baric have to fight with the White House to get the 'pause' on GoF overturned? Answer: Ralph Baric was engaging in gain-of-function.
"He [Ralph Baric] recalls that when he came back to work that Monday, he opened his email and was stunned to learn about the moratorium. He thought of all his lab's research projects. "It took me 10 seconds to realize that most of them were going to be affected," he says."
If GoF doesn't exist, what was the White House trying to ban?
If GoF doesn't exist and Ralph Baric wasn't doing it, why was Ralph Baric trying to overturn the law?
If GoF doesn't exist, why was Baric serializing SARS-WIV-1 through humanized mice, and not just using normal mice? Why was he trying to put a human virus into humanized mice if the virus wasn't intended for humans?
If GoF doesn't exist, why are so many countries trying to establish as many BSL-2, 3 and 4 labs as possible? Why was China trying to build a lab if it wasn't engaging in GoF research?
The evidence gain-of-function research is occurring is overwhelming. The sad part is they're still doing it.
Here's a real play: if PANDA think GoF does not exist, then call their bluff and have them endorse legislation banning it. As it supposedly doesn't exist they're not going to run afoul of the law and should have zero objections to it being outright banned.
So yes, this all seems rather definitive. I trusted and admired PANDA and Nick Hudson during the Covid debacle. Then when they suddenly pivoted to this 'GOF doesn't exist' narrative, which itself provided a hobby horse for the irritating 'viruses don't exist' crowd to jump aboard, I became bemused. I challenged Nick online but he seemed curiously reluctant to engage directly with the facts, so I then began to suspect that he might be the victim of an ideological obsession. The question which now arises is: did this ideological obsession result in Nick Hudson interviewing Norman Piezianek, simply as an exercise in reinforcing that ideology or was the motivation for interviewing Piezianek rather darker? Was it in fact, as hinted here, a case of Nick/PANDA knowingly assisting an attempt by an establishment bioweapons researcher to divert attention away from the nefarious and illegal activities of the bioweapons industry by inviting discord and division in the 'medical freedom community'? These are uncomfortable questions, but they must be answered, and more importantly they must be answered in a manner which does not invite more discord, disharmony and division and does not invite hordes of radical dissenters on either side hysterically screaming abuse at one another and accusing one another of being controlled opposition. Because that's a win-win situation for the powers that be. They first seed narrative confusion, which seeds division, then when their motives and methods become clearer, and the accusations start flying about who said what and why, they sit back and watch further vicious infighting, among those who are tempted to 'take sides' without calmly assessing the facts and the evidence beforehand. We can't let this happen. The stakes are too high.
The toxins weren't the only cause of "Gulf War Syndrome." The husband of a dear friend, who was in the military at the time but who was not deployed to the gulf, suffered terrible symptoms similar to those who were deployed. Those symptoms (chronic fatigue, loss of muscle control among others) were the result of the military forcing the experimental anthrax vaccine on all personnel. He was a pilot and had to give up flying. Because he was so close to his 20 year mark they allowed him to remain in until he reached that milestone then forced him to retire. He is better today than he was, but still suffers from some ill effects. I believe that anthrax releases (remember when envelopes with suspicious substances showed up in the offices of Congress?) were done deliberately so that the military/intelligence agencies could run the experimental vaccine program. Sound familiar?
It really is a minefield trying to negotiate a path through all the contradictory information available to us. I watched two of the interviews with Jessica Hockett and Nick Hudson with Norman Pieniazek and he very quickly dismissed gain of function and biological weapons being used. He has a very interesting history as Dr Ah Khan Syed has pointed out and appears to argue a lot on twitter about these very subjects and I must say sometimes accusing people he disagrees with of being Russian agents or being paid by Pfizer. At first I was very suspicious of him then because of his attaching and inserting himself into podcasts that I listen to this became blurred, but what cannot be ignored is how involved he was in the very subjects he is quick to dismiss. Thank you for this very interesting and informative article.
First, they terrorize the world with a declared pandemic and then they claim there was no virus. They are masochists in the extreme, do love to torture and confuse. What has occurred is violent and abusive in the extreme to the nth degree. expect truth will eventually prevail.
It’s weird, all of a sudden viruses don’t even exist and you’re a complete dolt for believing in them, therefore you’re wrong about everything and cannot be trusted. Then gain of function research isn’t real even though there is decades of literature and dozens of books with detailed footnotes and references along with a multi billion dollar industry that has penetrated all aspects of society, growing cartoonishly in size since 9/11 and the anthrax attacks. But we are idiots for reading. As a rule of thumb, anyone trying to police thought is probably the thought police. Great job Doc.
It is too early in the morning....but I cannot remember........all of the bioweapons that have been created are bacteria, like Lyme, asperwhatever, etc.////right??????
But has a virus bioweapon been created? Maybe? Maybe Covid 19? Can it be proven ? Yes?
But then, can it go around the world, as it is an RNA virus?...ie without infectious clones being released?
Our government is a mess - look at how they killed the Tea Party movement as an example. Infiltrated it and then Murdered it! I remember a group of black politicians walking through the crowd at one rally in DC, with press following them, just hoping to God someone said something racist so they could dismiss the whole movement. Disgusting is what our government is! Our rallies were peaceful, wholesome, family oriented and clean. The place was cleaner when we left than when we arrived. The press continually lied about how many attended too. Contrary to every leftist rally/protest which promoted violence and left the city a mess every single time. I despise leftists.
I actually wondered a while back if someone hijacked Nick's Twitter account and I stopped following him. The GOF subject is no longer a question. We have plenty of proof and witnesses. It seems Nick and his friend either have a nefarious agenda or they're stupid and we know it's not the latter.
In the comment section where they interviewed him the first time, I provided some links to published research contradicting what Norman P. was saying about the impossibility of identifying how to modify virus for GoF and he was extremely rude, nasty and dismissive (checking now, he edited his comments to be less rude and instead accused me of working for Pfizer as that seems to be the go to tactic.) I have no science background but over the course of the pandemic era I had collected references to GoF related research. If I could find these things, how come this super expert seemed to be first unaware and then dismissive?
When someone from the inside of biodefense racket comes out and says GoF is all smoke and mirrors, directly contrary to their financial interests in keeping the field funded, there is a very solid reason to be deeply suspicious.
The problem for the defense establishment since the end of the cold war has been finding new enemies to justify their enormous budget. Saddam was an enemy they carefully seeded and groomed, so was Noriega. At the same time, the US groomed Al Qaeda as a global threat but right at the same time as that culminated they were working on the biodefense racket.
One of the most important things that RFK, Jr. pointed out in his new book is that the Patriot Act (passed in fear after the anthrax attacks conducted with US gov anthrax) included a provision that promised biowarfare researchers would be protected from legal repercussions of their work. From that point, the secretive work became more and more openly pursued under NIH.
Invisible pathogens are an ideal enemy that can be everywhere, all the time and justify enormous spending so it makes no sense for someone in that industry to come out and say its all impossible anyway. Even if it were impossible to make truly lethal and controllable pathogens, they'd lie and say they have a way to do it.
Just as an aside, don't be surprised if they dust off terrorism and bring it back since pandemic threats are a bit worn out with the public for the time being.
Here are my comments on that first interview article
Great Article, doc. But did the U.S. DoD send Coronavirus bioweapons to the UK and other countries prior to 2000, which was directly related to the DoD’s Coronavirus research & development in the United States from 1958-1967-1993-2014-2020…? YES. YES, Damnit.
This story of Bioweapons is much older than most wish to admit, like most war-weapon profiteering stories, and all of it began in the United States, NOT China, though it did end up there much later, as well as over two hundred other foreign labs—like those currently being funded by the U.S. in Ukraine, Israel and France—which nobody talks about either.
Ofcourse gof exists, ample evidence of that, Ofcourse the virus theory had to be given life again around the 1950's as a big obese fat cash cow was on the horizon, the needlecraft for the world's smallest, Ofcourse gaslighting is part of it all, deflection, entertained to death masses (no bio weapons needed), Ofcourse destruction of the person is part and parcel to their game, Ofcourse agitators are abound and in high positions, because we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and wickedness in high places (written in some old book), Ofcourse the mousearmy looks at all topics thought of or given, Ofcourse as any sherlock would have to look into all of it as well, however and this is important: The human beings unalienable birthright to exist and fend for themselves and their offspring was brutally destroyed (no bio weapons needed), the fabric of the family and friend structure destroyed by totalitarian rules written up in light legalese and enforced by violence (no bio weapon needed) and implemented by govern the minds & media the world over, that is full on war from where I sit, with or without a pathogen enough damage was done. So if you stick with the pathogen issue, and there is one or one can or will be created, then you will go for cbdc's and structural control of all living things due to the little overlords wanting to check you and keep you safe at all times, and it will give 'em the right-excuse to invade your body with useless sticking and poking your brain tests at will, a flip of a switch, good luck with living in a world like that, oh wait we already live in a world like that, cheers!
Great article! The 'PANDATA' crew have become increasingly hostile and obnoxious in their rhetoric; one tried to insist there was no way for a virus to transfer from 'humanized mice' to humans. The mechanism is literally in the name of the type of genetically modified mouse.
It isn't possible to refer to evidence given such evidently partisan hostilities (The Daily Beagle compiled numerous examples of vaccine research labs causing outbreaks: https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/p/vaccine-manufacturers-are-behind).
If the gain-of-function (GoF) research didn't exist, why did Ralph Baric have to fight with the White House to get the 'pause' on GoF overturned? Answer: Ralph Baric was engaging in gain-of-function.
"He [Ralph Baric] recalls that when he came back to work that Monday, he opened his email and was stunned to learn about the moratorium. He thought of all his lab's research projects. "It took me 10 seconds to realize that most of them were going to be affected," he says."
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2014/11/07/361219361/how-a-tilt-toward-safety-stopped-a-scientists-virus-research
If GoF doesn't exist, what was the White House trying to ban?
If GoF doesn't exist and Ralph Baric wasn't doing it, why was Ralph Baric trying to overturn the law?
If GoF doesn't exist, why was Baric serializing SARS-WIV-1 through humanized mice, and not just using normal mice? Why was he trying to put a human virus into humanized mice if the virus wasn't intended for humans?
If GoF doesn't exist, why are so many countries trying to establish as many BSL-2, 3 and 4 labs as possible? Why was China trying to build a lab if it wasn't engaging in GoF research?
The evidence gain-of-function research is occurring is overwhelming. The sad part is they're still doing it.
Here's a real play: if PANDA think GoF does not exist, then call their bluff and have them endorse legislation banning it. As it supposedly doesn't exist they're not going to run afoul of the law and should have zero objections to it being outright banned.
So yes, this all seems rather definitive. I trusted and admired PANDA and Nick Hudson during the Covid debacle. Then when they suddenly pivoted to this 'GOF doesn't exist' narrative, which itself provided a hobby horse for the irritating 'viruses don't exist' crowd to jump aboard, I became bemused. I challenged Nick online but he seemed curiously reluctant to engage directly with the facts, so I then began to suspect that he might be the victim of an ideological obsession. The question which now arises is: did this ideological obsession result in Nick Hudson interviewing Norman Piezianek, simply as an exercise in reinforcing that ideology or was the motivation for interviewing Piezianek rather darker? Was it in fact, as hinted here, a case of Nick/PANDA knowingly assisting an attempt by an establishment bioweapons researcher to divert attention away from the nefarious and illegal activities of the bioweapons industry by inviting discord and division in the 'medical freedom community'? These are uncomfortable questions, but they must be answered, and more importantly they must be answered in a manner which does not invite more discord, disharmony and division and does not invite hordes of radical dissenters on either side hysterically screaming abuse at one another and accusing one another of being controlled opposition. Because that's a win-win situation for the powers that be. They first seed narrative confusion, which seeds division, then when their motives and methods become clearer, and the accusations start flying about who said what and why, they sit back and watch further vicious infighting, among those who are tempted to 'take sides' without calmly assessing the facts and the evidence beforehand. We can't let this happen. The stakes are too high.
I guess all the "Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Defence" work I did in the services was just to burn up time because those things never existed.
The toxins weren't the only cause of "Gulf War Syndrome." The husband of a dear friend, who was in the military at the time but who was not deployed to the gulf, suffered terrible symptoms similar to those who were deployed. Those symptoms (chronic fatigue, loss of muscle control among others) were the result of the military forcing the experimental anthrax vaccine on all personnel. He was a pilot and had to give up flying. Because he was so close to his 20 year mark they allowed him to remain in until he reached that milestone then forced him to retire. He is better today than he was, but still suffers from some ill effects. I believe that anthrax releases (remember when envelopes with suspicious substances showed up in the offices of Congress?) were done deliberately so that the military/intelligence agencies could run the experimental vaccine program. Sound familiar?
It really is a minefield trying to negotiate a path through all the contradictory information available to us. I watched two of the interviews with Jessica Hockett and Nick Hudson with Norman Pieniazek and he very quickly dismissed gain of function and biological weapons being used. He has a very interesting history as Dr Ah Khan Syed has pointed out and appears to argue a lot on twitter about these very subjects and I must say sometimes accusing people he disagrees with of being Russian agents or being paid by Pfizer. At first I was very suspicious of him then because of his attaching and inserting himself into podcasts that I listen to this became blurred, but what cannot be ignored is how involved he was in the very subjects he is quick to dismiss. Thank you for this very interesting and informative article.
First, they terrorize the world with a declared pandemic and then they claim there was no virus. They are masochists in the extreme, do love to torture and confuse. What has occurred is violent and abusive in the extreme to the nth degree. expect truth will eventually prevail.
Excellent read, well done!
More about Norman
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=wKIBcKEAAAAJ&hl=en
Thank you for this excellent presentation. I have watched the McCairn, Rixey, Ikky show and would recommend as many people as possible to watch.
It’s weird, all of a sudden viruses don’t even exist and you’re a complete dolt for believing in them, therefore you’re wrong about everything and cannot be trusted. Then gain of function research isn’t real even though there is decades of literature and dozens of books with detailed footnotes and references along with a multi billion dollar industry that has penetrated all aspects of society, growing cartoonishly in size since 9/11 and the anthrax attacks. But we are idiots for reading. As a rule of thumb, anyone trying to police thought is probably the thought police. Great job Doc.
It is too early in the morning....but I cannot remember........all of the bioweapons that have been created are bacteria, like Lyme, asperwhatever, etc.////right??????
But has a virus bioweapon been created? Maybe? Maybe Covid 19? Can it be proven ? Yes?
But then, can it go around the world, as it is an RNA virus?...ie without infectious clones being released?
Anyone?
Our government is a mess - look at how they killed the Tea Party movement as an example. Infiltrated it and then Murdered it! I remember a group of black politicians walking through the crowd at one rally in DC, with press following them, just hoping to God someone said something racist so they could dismiss the whole movement. Disgusting is what our government is! Our rallies were peaceful, wholesome, family oriented and clean. The place was cleaner when we left than when we arrived. The press continually lied about how many attended too. Contrary to every leftist rally/protest which promoted violence and left the city a mess every single time. I despise leftists.
I actually wondered a while back if someone hijacked Nick's Twitter account and I stopped following him. The GOF subject is no longer a question. We have plenty of proof and witnesses. It seems Nick and his friend either have a nefarious agenda or they're stupid and we know it's not the latter.
In the comment section where they interviewed him the first time, I provided some links to published research contradicting what Norman P. was saying about the impossibility of identifying how to modify virus for GoF and he was extremely rude, nasty and dismissive (checking now, he edited his comments to be less rude and instead accused me of working for Pfizer as that seems to be the go to tactic.) I have no science background but over the course of the pandemic era I had collected references to GoF related research. If I could find these things, how come this super expert seemed to be first unaware and then dismissive?
When someone from the inside of biodefense racket comes out and says GoF is all smoke and mirrors, directly contrary to their financial interests in keeping the field funded, there is a very solid reason to be deeply suspicious.
The problem for the defense establishment since the end of the cold war has been finding new enemies to justify their enormous budget. Saddam was an enemy they carefully seeded and groomed, so was Noriega. At the same time, the US groomed Al Qaeda as a global threat but right at the same time as that culminated they were working on the biodefense racket.
One of the most important things that RFK, Jr. pointed out in his new book is that the Patriot Act (passed in fear after the anthrax attacks conducted with US gov anthrax) included a provision that promised biowarfare researchers would be protected from legal repercussions of their work. From that point, the secretive work became more and more openly pursued under NIH.
Invisible pathogens are an ideal enemy that can be everywhere, all the time and justify enormous spending so it makes no sense for someone in that industry to come out and say its all impossible anyway. Even if it were impossible to make truly lethal and controllable pathogens, they'd lie and say they have a way to do it.
Just as an aside, don't be surprised if they dust off terrorism and bring it back since pandemic threats are a bit worn out with the public for the time being.
Here are my comments on that first interview article
https://open.substack.com/pub/wherearethenumbers/p/an-explosive-discussion-with-ex-cdc?r=pced8&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=42748253
Great Article, doc. But did the U.S. DoD send Coronavirus bioweapons to the UK and other countries prior to 2000, which was directly related to the DoD’s Coronavirus research & development in the United States from 1958-1967-1993-2014-2020…? YES. YES, Damnit.
This story of Bioweapons is much older than most wish to admit, like most war-weapon profiteering stories, and all of it began in the United States, NOT China, though it did end up there much later, as well as over two hundred other foreign labs—like those currently being funded by the U.S. in Ukraine, Israel and France—which nobody talks about either.
This link (https://open.substack.com/pub/jeffreyplubina/p/the-most-important-video-and-audio?r=1qpmjb&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web) provides information bridging some of the gaps dating back prior to 1900. The very first short clip will give you nightmares, and as you go down the list you may need meditation or perhaps whiskey shots in between clips to remain calm.
Ofcourse gof exists, ample evidence of that, Ofcourse the virus theory had to be given life again around the 1950's as a big obese fat cash cow was on the horizon, the needlecraft for the world's smallest, Ofcourse gaslighting is part of it all, deflection, entertained to death masses (no bio weapons needed), Ofcourse destruction of the person is part and parcel to their game, Ofcourse agitators are abound and in high positions, because we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and wickedness in high places (written in some old book), Ofcourse the mousearmy looks at all topics thought of or given, Ofcourse as any sherlock would have to look into all of it as well, however and this is important: The human beings unalienable birthright to exist and fend for themselves and their offspring was brutally destroyed (no bio weapons needed), the fabric of the family and friend structure destroyed by totalitarian rules written up in light legalese and enforced by violence (no bio weapon needed) and implemented by govern the minds & media the world over, that is full on war from where I sit, with or without a pathogen enough damage was done. So if you stick with the pathogen issue, and there is one or one can or will be created, then you will go for cbdc's and structural control of all living things due to the little overlords wanting to check you and keep you safe at all times, and it will give 'em the right-excuse to invade your body with useless sticking and poking your brain tests at will, a flip of a switch, good luck with living in a world like that, oh wait we already live in a world like that, cheers!