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Niki's avatar

I hated the Brave New World when I read it.

I live in a poor Buddhist monastic school in Nepal. Some of my kids are brilliant, many are average. Three are not intelligent at all but they are sweet and kind hearted. I would fight to death to defend all of them.

Eugenics are not human. They are dangerous sad monsters.

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Amat's avatar

I would have sweet and kind hearted before intelligence any day, what use is intelligence without these attributes.

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Scottish Maiden's avatar

The next time somebody challenges vaccine mandates in court, they should quote all this aspirational utopian language by historical mass murderers with a straight face, as if they were arguing FOR the policy, but citing the actual source the way you are supposed to do in a legal argument. Use the leftist argument FOR the policy, only cite the original source. "Lets do this for the common good" (Adolph Hitler, Policy for Nazi Eugenics, 1932). "Society is better with central control" (Pol Pot, 1965). "Therefore, the people are served when the government can cull undeseriables" (Josef Mengele, Auschwitz physician, 1930).

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Guido's avatar

It would be hilarious to see them all recoil in horror, ..... without them realizing they are all just as evil.

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

Well, it's being done right now by the "Interest of Justice" group operating in Costa Rica and the Nuremberg Code plays an integral part in their court challenges; they understand very well the history that got us to the mess we are in today but also how that same history provided a basis and hope for change and salvation of all humanity.

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Duchess's avatar

I really like that idea..can there be an appeal?

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ArcaneSlang's avatar

Theosophy once was the cult that many of these eugenic elitists hob knobbed with around the turn of the 20th century. Madame Blavatsky et al. We have a neo-theosophy tribe with the usual suspects like Bill Gates, Dr Fauci…

Craig Venter is another one that needs a steady spotlight on. He claims to be a god in his belief of having created ‘life’. His notoriety is the human genome project but that’s not all. I recommend people continue to deep dive into these unelected overlords. Remember their wives too. Dr Fauci’s wife has quite a conflict of interest- Christine Grady.

We have to realize eugenics has be perpetrated against the denizens of the world for almost 100 years.

In America, we had the Tuskegee syphilis program on blacks and the untold experiments on the Indian reservations like Rosebud in SD.

Are these eugenicists right?? God forbid. However, waking people up to the fact our governments want global slavery is not going very easily.

I suppose the question if a revolt were possible and eugenics was thoroughly debunked- but as Dr Syed pointed out- this grand plan years in the making- IS considered a UTOPIA; The Great Society, the culmination of human intellect at it’s finest. The people who proudly obeyed and took the vaxx think they will be included because they think they are smarter than those of us who questioned, argued against, and refused to take it. Sadly, they were the targets of elimination. But if there is a revolt what beliefs would resurrect in the vacuum left by this eugenic religion that was, all academia, science, literature, entertainment, media, and government were based upon?

Not being rhetorical the hint may be the Ten Commandments. Where did they come from and why do they remain relevant despite evolving culture?

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Steven Sellars's avatar

One quibble. Millennia, not 100 years. The only thing that has changed is the technology used. Millennia ago it was throwing the newborn into the garbage dump, now it is meddling with genes. Fallen humans being fallen humans.

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Blair's avatar

Yes, people don't seem to realize that across all of history similar problems keep rearing their ugly heads. Human beings are not capable of creating a "utopia" on Earth because of our inherent fallen nature. The only cure is Jesus Christ who takes that fallen nature and forgives all sin to make people whole again. His kingdom is what everyone desires. Some just don't realize it yet. Love, joy, grace, forgiveness and relationships are all central to His kingdom. The problem arises when human beings try to create a false utopia on Earth. It's never worked out too well. Like communism, these people think it just hasn't been "done the right way" yet to work. They want to try again. They are sorely mistaken.

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Horace the Menace's avatar

I don't think it's just our fallen nature that prevents us from creating utopia.

Utopia cannot be created. The very act of attempting to create (impose) utopia inherently creates dystopia. Imposing utopia is, quite literally, a Satanic idea. Sauron was a utopian.

Utopia, if it is ever to exist, must be a bottom up phenomenon. Everyone voluntarily starts to behave better. And then utopia might appear. But it cannot be created from above.

Which, perhaps (for who am I to claim to know the mind of God?), may be why God didn't do it :-).

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ArnoldF's avatar

Heaven is coming for those who know Jesus

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

Very astutely stated!

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Miriamnae's avatar

Interesting you mention the Ten Commandments. This week’s Torah portion of the whole year, in Exodus, is the giving of the Ten Commandments.

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

Very insightfully stated! But history has also given us beliefs and ideas worth preserving and passing on so we don't really have only a vacuum to work from; our first task is to revisit the history we have been so ignorant of because we have been living with the lies and distortions of the past for so long that we never knew the best of our history along with its worst.

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Duchess's avatar

This deserves more than one reading. I remember long ago, a teacher told me it is not a choice between good and evil....ethics are needed when you have to choose between two goods. And the hardest one is the individual vs. the community (collective).

I never forgot.

seems to me the US constitution is the only one that puts the individual before the community.

And you have also pointed out that it is a false binary choice.

Thank you. Those who say we must do this because the oil is running out, is ostensiby saying kiling people avoids the evils of cannabilism.

Without God/belief in a supreme creator, and that each life is an image of God...you have totalitarianism.

That a child might come along and find a way to live without oil, like a tesla, is never factored into the equation.

Everything is considered finite on this planet.

I don't think everything is finite.

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

Communities are made up of individuals and the real problem is the denial of the spiritual nature we all share as unique human beings; there is no "common good" except in utilitarian and human-based decisions which may or may not prove beneficial to the masses already propagandized and, invariably and inevitably serve only the few; the beginning and ending point is the sovereignty of the individual and the gift of life we will always be responsible for; " I now give you the choice between life and death, between God's blessing and God's curse, and I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Choose life." (Deuteronomy 30:19)

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Horace the Menace's avatar

I think your teacher may have been confused.

1. Choosing between two goods is easy - you may choose either. It is only hard if one of the "goods" is actually a "bad".

2. "And the hardest one is the individual vs. the community (collective)." No - this is not hard at all. The "community" is a fiction. Any group of people should always be considered as individuals. And you may not harm one to help another.

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

Very insightfully stated!

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Yarrow's avatar

I'm always perplexed by Darwinist eugenicists. They profess to believe that only the fittest survive... like, as an automatic process. And then they insist they need to shepherd the process or it won't work. And they don't see the contradiction.

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Marice Nelson's avatar

they also have a hugely inflated sense of their own understanding and little appreciation of complex systems

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Yarrow's avatar

That too. I'd probably have nodded in agreement with everything they said when I was 20 and knew everything. In middle-age? My own certainty about things is much smaller.

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Dr Ah Kahn Syed's avatar

Humility is what they lack.

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Horace the Menace's avatar

It's more than that I think. Not the mindless followers who parrot whatever argument they last heard. But Darwin himself, and the people he associated with. His work was not original - his father (I'm working from memory but I'm pretty sure this is correct), a freemason, had already produced something similar - and he wasn't the first either. Darwin's work (which has many, many problems) was part of a planned and coordinated assault on the idea of God. Darwin himself alluded to this in his letters when he was older The assault spanned the whole of the enlightenment - Newton, Malthus, Bentham, Mill, Darwin, Nietzsche, Kant and so many others. - scientists and philosophers all determined on the destruction of the idea of God. They pushed ideas which fit an agenda of which some of them at least (perhaps all of them) may well not have understood the ultimate goal. But they knew they were attacking the idea of God.

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zuFpM5*M's avatar

I've been doing some reading in this area myself with for example elite intellectuals like Bertrand Russell and other more obscure characters. Although they don't say this, all of their ideas rest on a fundamental assumption of their own superiority, which is always presented implicitly without any real attempt to justify it.

That is, if the "scientific" logic leads them to conclude that human beings have no intrinsic value but are just walking, talking meat blobs, what makes some of them fit to decide the fate of others? In essence, it is that they are better at talking up their own worth. Basically, they are superior con artists.

Why, for instance, would human beings of average intelligence, who work and eat and live happily, not be superior choices for the future of humankind compared to highly intelligent "scientific" talkers who spend their time plotting how to justify the murder of significant portions of the rest of humanity? They often also consume resources far in excess of an average intelligence person.

Isn't such elite sociopathy a trait that should be suppressed as damaging to the human race?

The fundamental contradiction is never resolved. The reality seems to be that those who justify eugenics and population control have only one real message to convey, "I am better than you." Their essential loathing of humanity and elevation of themselves is anti-human and that is the true core of their philosophy which eventually manifests itself clearly in the anti-human systems of "One Health" or "Climate Change."

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

Very well said! And yes their sociopathy and psychopathy should be fought against because it is really anti-human and, even more, anti-life which most recently is clearly exemplified in the One Health" movement; the root of all of the motivating factors is the same and that is power and control and total dominance and to achieve that goal it is necessary to believe that humanity is expendable and the reason why Erich Fromme once called our species an "existential failure."

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Tamsin's avatar

Very well put. "Survival of the Superior Con Artist" wouldn't sell nearly as well as their other titles on offer.

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Guido's avatar

The elitists believing they should control who is thought of as defective or useless, need to realize that they themselves are the very evil, useless and defectives that should be eliminated. Would this mean that a total deconstructing of their beliefs through public humiliation, prior to their death by stoning, ... is warranted ??

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Guido's avatar

Well, then perhaps my notion of sending them on statewide tours of their home states, ... in stocks, if front of every county courthouse and ending at the State capital for a month long round of taunting, tomatoes... and swift kicks before final sentence is carried out ?

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zuFpM5*M's avatar

I don't believe in cruel and unusual punishment. Also, I am outlining the flaws in their thinking rather than proposing to enact the retributive violence of a tribal society.

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Guido's avatar

Yes, but at what point does the retributive violence of a tribal society, become highly warranted ?? What level of evil must they reach before that occurs?

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

That level was reached long ago! we just haven't reached the level of knowledge and understanding to react to that level of evil and say enough is enough!

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Guido's avatar

The definition of Powder Keg?

When it hits it may strike like lightning.

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zuFpM5*M's avatar

Self defense is always warranted. The problem is that extreme malice and evil is hidden behind lies that are believed by the public and the authors and agents of murder are obscured to us. The theoreticians and fluffers of these programs are certainly guilty but seeking them out for execution would seem to put us on the same level as them. Ideally, we'd have a system of justice that doles out proportional punishment, but it seems farfetched given the current corruption of our institutions. Nevertheless it would be something to aspire towards.

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Guido's avatar

But what would be the proportional punishment for global genocide ?? It might seem that seeking them out for summary execution is not stern enough. With literally everything being captured, the courts will fail and it will get so bad that the masses rise in rage and the carnage ensues, .... or we remain totally enslaved ever after, ... and That carnage ensues.

The suspense will be great.

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zuFpM5*M's avatar

Proportional to the role. There was no single person, organization or entity that conducted genocide. There were many participants and many roles. Does your local pharmacist deserve to be stoned to death as you suggest? They played a minor role. On the other hand, the CDC's Walensky went on TV and assured pregnant women that they should get injected. That is a major crime.

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JP Spatzier's avatar

They are evil eugenicsts who don’t believe in god & truly believe they will be achieving “higher hive mind consciousness” through connection..very disturbing & they don’t care about those who don’t want to go along & never answers what will happen to those who don’t want to participate

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Mrs S's avatar

The best elucidation of Utilitarianism, or the concept of 'the greater good' is Ursula le Guin's short story, The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas.

It's the story of a utopia where everyone experiences great happiness at the expense of a single child who is locked away beneath the city to live in isolation and squalor. At some point, everyone learns that their city can only exist because of the suffering of this small child confined in the dark, unloved, malnourished, and dirty in its own faeces.

Some of the citizens decide that they cannot stomach the bargain and they are the ones who walk away from Omelas.

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Marice Nelson's avatar

i first encountered that story in michael sandel's book, justice. still makes me cry when i think of it. i was reminded of it recently when reading about some of the experimentation stanley plotkin, the vaccine developer, had done on institutionalized children and mothers and babies in prison and what he unapologetically wrote about it. someone in a comment section was defending him claiming it was a different time. it was the 60's, well after wwII and the nuremberg trials and declaration. there is really no excuse. he is a real means justify the ends and the greatest good for the greatest number kind of guy. his defender bothered me in that he couldnt separate the man's professional achievements from his inexcusable actions

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Mrs S's avatar

Stanley Plotkin is an absolute disgrace of a human being.

He should be in jail in my opinion.

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Nuala's avatar

I concur

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Mrs S's avatar

Not through me either, my friend.

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Kiwimudcrab (aka Steve Murray)'s avatar

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is “IYH”?

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JerryB's avatar

"Yet utilitarians walk among us." You know it. And it's us or them, doc.

Looking forward to Part 2.

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Randall Burchell's avatar

Evil never rests.

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Guido's avatar

I wonder if evil is related to rust.

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JC's avatar

Rust never sleeps.

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JP Spatzier's avatar

You must watch Ray Kurzweil from last week.

He flat out stares cloud mind control of everything we see and think will be here & fully operational by 2029. But no worries the AI will only pick “good people” to be in charge.

WTF. He’s telling us what’s coming

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Blair's avatar

Like something straight out of a dystopian science fiction novel.

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Nuala's avatar

It's not coming... It's already here.

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ConstantineDB's avatar

I wrote about all of this in my book 'The Great UN-Reset' available in all bookstores last year! Huxley was deeply involved in the inception of the UN. These people are all members of secret societies worshipping 'mystery religions' handed down through Babylonians to the Greeks and Romans. They are essentially Pagans - now you know why they drive disastrous Net-Zero and Sustainable Development Goals aligned with 'One Health' initiatives. They worship 'Mother (Isis) Nature' more than humanity!

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JC's avatar

Please, for the nature loving people everywhere - call them Techno-pagans.

Those who are more animistic in their belief & practice would never dream of using it on another. Those who are true Mystics, also.

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sadie's avatar

Live Not By Lies by Dreher .... good book to strengthen your resolve to stand firm for whatever is coming next.... author is orthodox, talks about atmosphere around WWII... silence confers agreement... do not let a lie go unchallenged.

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Christian's avatar

Climate ideology is Malthusian too.

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ArnoldF's avatar

They intend to kill alot of people

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fabian's avatar

I had been trying to tell people about the eugenicist plan and the Huxley connection (people in Germany have been brainwashed to think that eugenics is a German invention, which it is clearly not), the culling of the useless eaters, homo deus for the last couple of years and even long before when Aaron Russo was still around. I stopped in 2023 because I was worn out.

This is a good article and I'll try sharing it, but those who know they know and the rest could not care less. It is still nice for me to see that others are finally getting the gist and write these brilliant pieces for those out there that read and listen.

We still have a long way ahead of us till we get to the bottom of why this happens.

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Katarina Christoforou's avatar

I can't believe billions were coerced into a medical experiment. Interesting that Dawkins jumped the shark with Sam Harris. Pair of idiots.

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Very riveting piece! As I was reading through the thought occured how great it would be to have discussion questions at the end of this one - so rich for discussion. I felt I had just read a good book - that's where the thought originated from.

The abuse of the child segment/video - suggestion - a piece on the ways children, specifically were used to promote this entire mess - thinking about the Canadian ads to promote the shots where the kids were vampires, etc.

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